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Logi, I think that you may have crossed the line from "interesting" to "weird".

Du Chayla, French Light Cruiser laid down 1944

Displacement:
9,005 t light; 9,407 t standard; 10,836 t normal; 11,979 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
610.88 ft / 590.55 ft x 60.70 ft x 21.16 ft (normal load)
186.20 m / 180.00 m x 18.50 m x 6.45 m

Armament:
8 - 6.48" / 165 mm guns (4x2 guns), 143.30lbs / 65.00kg shells, 1944 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (4x2 guns), 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1944 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
16 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1944 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1944 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,426 lbs / 647 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 220
16 - 21.7" / 550 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 393.70 ft / 120.00 m 10.17 ft / 3.10 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 1.57" / 40 mm 2.76" / 70 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.39" / 10 mm 0.39" / 10 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 98,118 shp / 73,196 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 8,500nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,573 tons

Complement:
530 - 690

Cost:
£5.482 million / $21.928 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 177 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 1,883 tons, 17.4 %
- Belts: 655 tons, 6.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 274 tons, 2.5 %
- Armour Deck: 904 tons, 8.3 %
- Conning Tower: 50 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 2,506 tons, 23.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,189 tons, 38.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,831 tons, 16.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 2.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,841 lbs / 6,732 Kg = 108.9 x 6.5 " / 165 mm shells or 1.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
Metacentric height 3.0 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 14.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.73 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.79 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.53 ft / 9.00 m
- Forecastle (25 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Stern: 20.01 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 22.05 ft / 6.72 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.4 %
Waterplane Area: 24,835 Square feet or 2,307 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 102 lbs/sq ft or 496 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.75
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Latouche-Tréville, French Light Cruiser laid down 1944

Displacement:
10,000 t light; 10,475 t standard; 11,999 t normal; 13,218 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
643.69 ft / 623.36 ft x 63.98 ft x 21.08 ft (normal load)
196.20 m / 190.00 m x 19.50 m x 6.43 m

Armament:
12 - 6.48" / 165 mm guns (4x3 guns), 136.32lbs / 61.83kg shells, 1944 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns (4x2 guns), 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
8 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1944 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
16 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (1x16 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1944 Model
Machine guns in deck mount
on side, all raised guns
Weight of broadside 1,929 lbs / 875 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 210
16 - 21.7" / 550 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 393.70 ft / 120.00 m 10.17 ft / 3.10 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 97 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 1.57" / 40 mm 2.76" / 70 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 102,434 shp / 76,416 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 8,500nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,742 tons

Complement:
573 - 745

Cost:
£6.418 million / $25.673 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 283 tons, 2.4 %
Armour: 2,050 tons, 17.1 %
- Belts: 660 tons, 5.5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 330 tons, 2.8 %
- Armour Deck: 1,006 tons, 8.4 %
- Conning Tower: 53 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,616 tons, 21.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,801 tons, 40.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,999 tons, 16.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 2.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15,852 lbs / 7,191 Kg = 116.3 x 6.5 " / 165 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 15.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 68 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.51
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.08

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.74 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.55 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.53 ft / 9.00 m
- Forecastle (25 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Stern: 20.01 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 22.05 ft / 6.72 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 134.3 %
Waterplane Area: 27,621 Square feet or 2,566 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 534 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.50
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Well, if small cruisers are desired, I can go one better and with this design, you can get two for the cost of one. I do not know how long she would last in battle, but if she had the opportunity to launch her torpedo broadsides it could get hairy.


"Kamikaze", TBD Torpedo Cruiser laid down 1944

Displacement: 4,555 t light; 4,791 t standard; 5,300 t normal; 5,707 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

469.91 ft / 459.32 ft x 45.93 ft x 18.04 ft (normal load) [143.23 m / 140.00 m x 14.00 m x 5.50 m]

Armament:

6 - 5.31" / 135 mm guns (3x2 guns), 75.07lbs / 34.05kg shells, 1944 Model Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists on centreline ends, majority forward, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1944 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, all amidships
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1944 Model Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 498 lbs / 226 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 450
16 - 21.0" / 533 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 360.89 ft / 110.00 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 121 % of normal length

Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.57" / 40 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

Armour deck: 0.98" / 25 mm, Conning tower: 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines, Geared drive, 2 shafts, 65,294 shp / 48,709 Kw = 33.50 kts
Range 3,500nm at 20.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 916 tons

Complement: 309 - 403

Cost: £2.994 million / $11.977 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 62 tons, 1.2 %
Armour: 636 tons, 12.0 %
- Belts: 330 tons, 6.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 30 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 263 tons, 5.0 %
- Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,667 tons, 31.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,110 tons, 39.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 745 tons, 14.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 1.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 5,203 lbs / 2,360 Kg = 69.3 x 5.3 " / 135 mm shells or 0.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 1.9 ft / 0.6 m
Roll period: 14.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 67 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.40
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.11

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.487
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Stern: 18.04 ft / 5.50 m
- Average freeboard: 19.46 ft / 5.93 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 114.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 80.1 %
Waterplane Area: 14,447 Square feet or 1,342 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 117 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 77 lbs/sq ft or 375 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.89
- Longitudinal: 2.80
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped

Quoted from "snip"

Well, its not going to win many awards. But its very close to two for the price of one with regards to the other designs presented here.

Corgi, Snipyards General Cruiser laid down 1944

Armament:
8 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns (4x2 guns), 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists on centreline ends, evenly spread

I'm thinking two of these twin mounts should be superfiring...

Quoted from "eltf177"

Quoted from "snip"

Well, its not going to win many awards. But its very close to two for the price of one with regards to the other designs presented here.

Corgi, Snipyards General Cruiser laid down 1944

Armament:
8 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns (4x2 guns), 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists on centreline ends, evenly spread

I'm thinking two of these twin mounts should be superfiring...

Yes, yes they should. Cant edit the design because the VM on my MacBook ate it.

And here I thought maybe you had put all the turrets on the main deck like the Russian battleship Poltava. Actually, I do believe that Admiral K has actually built some vessels in that configuration for the Russian Federation Navy.

Reduced the speed from 30 kn to 28 kn, optimized the hull form, and the design becomes a lot more palatable. 50mm deck armor still costs too much though.


Glorious Tincan V2, "Cruiser" laid down 1944

Displacement:
10,000 t light; 10,607 t standard; 11,721 t normal; 12,612 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(577.42 ft / 567.59 ft) x 68.90 ft x (20.34 / 21.48 ft)
(176.00 m / 173.00 m) x 21.00 m x (6.20 / 6.55 m)

Armament:
6 - 12.99" / 330 mm 50.0 cal guns - 1,212.54lbs / 550.00kg shells, 80 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1944 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 4.72" / 120 mm 45.0 cal guns - 53.18lbs / 24.12kg shells, 200 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1944 Model
4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
24 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm 70.0 cal guns - 0.26lbs / 0.12kg shells, 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1944 Model
6 x Quad mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 7,707 lbs / 3,496 kg
Main Torpedoes
8 - 21.0" / 533 mm, 5.00 ft / 1.52 m torpedoes - 0.512 t each, 4.094 t total
In 2 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.12" / 130 mm 344.49 ft / 105.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 93 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7.87" / 200 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm -
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm - -

- Armoured deck - single deck:
For and Aft decks: 0.98" / 25 mm
Forecastle: 0.98" / 25 mm Quarter deck: 0.98" / 25 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 1.97" / 50 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 49,665 shp / 37,050 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 8,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,006 tons

Complement:
563 - 732

Cost:
£8.688 million / $34.753 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,759 tons, 15.0 %
- Guns: 1,751 tons, 14.9 %
- Weapons: 8 tons, 0.1 %
Armour: 1,676 tons, 14.3 %
- Belts: 739 tons, 6.3 %
- Armament: 410 tons, 3.5 %
- Armour Deck: 505 tons, 4.3 %
- Conning Tower: 22 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,268 tons, 10.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,147 tons, 43.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,721 tons, 14.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 1.3 %
- On freeboard deck: 150 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,162 lbs / 6,424 Kg = 12.9 x 13.0 " / 330 mm shells or 4.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 15.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.93
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a normal bow and large transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.516 / 0.526
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.24 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.56 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1.48 ft / 0.45 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20.00 %, 22.97 ft / 7.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Forward deck: 30.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Aft deck: 35.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Quarter deck: 15.00 %, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m, 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 16.93 ft / 5.16 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 144.2 %
Waterplane Area: 27,498 Square feet or 2,555 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 101 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 155 lbs/sq ft or 757 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.55
- Overall: 1.00
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room

To the insanity.

7in, which hasn't been used in the USN since pre-dread days, and to top it off, all forward in triples ala Nelrod.

USS Insanity, United States Light Cruiser laid down 1944

Displacement:
9,851 t light; 10,375 t standard; 12,040 t normal; 13,373 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
623.26 ft / 615.00 ft x 65.00 ft x 21.00 ft (normal load)
189.97 m / 187.45 m x 19.81 m x 6.40 m

Armament:
9 - 7.00" / 178 mm guns (3x3 guns), 190.00lbs / 86.18kg shells, 1944 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline, all forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (4x2 guns), 55.17lbs / 25.02kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
4 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (2x2 guns), 55.17lbs / 25.02kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
28 - 1.10" / 27.9 mm guns (8 mounts), 0.67lbs / 0.30kg shells, 1944 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
16 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1944 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 2,392 lbs / 1,085 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 393.60 ft / 119.97 m 9.45 ft / 2.88 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.00" / 203 mm 2.00" / 51 mm 5.00" / 127 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 86,589 shp / 64,596 Kw = 32.50 kts
Range 14,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,998 tons

Complement:
574 - 747

Cost:
£6.036 million / $24.144 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 289 tons, 2.4 %
Armour: 2,172 tons, 18.0 %
- Belts: 624 tons, 5.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 476 tons, 4.0 %
- Armour Deck: 1,027 tons, 8.5 %
- Conning Tower: 45 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,211 tons, 18.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,829 tons, 40.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,189 tons, 18.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 2.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18,156 lbs / 8,235 Kg = 105.9 x 7.0 " / 178 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 14.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 54 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.46
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.502
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.46 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.42 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.50 ft / 1.07 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Forecastle (17 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (19 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 20.48 ft / 6.24 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 82.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 184.2 %
Waterplane Area: 27,749 Square feet or 2,578 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 130 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 114 lbs/sq ft or 556 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.42
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Quoted from "snip"

Quoted from "eltf177"

Quoted from "snip"

Well, its not going to win many awards. But its very close to two for the price of one with regards to the other designs presented here.

Corgi, Snipyards General Cruiser laid down 1944

Armament:
8 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns (4x2 guns), 83.72lbs / 37.98kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists on centreline ends, evenly spread

I'm thinking two of these twin mounts should be superfiring...

Yes, yes they should. Cant edit the design because the VM on my MacBook ate it.

I went ahead and redid it, I have _no_ idea why the SS report looks like this...

Design AA, Corgi SY AA Cruiser laid down 1944

Displacement:

5,198 t light; 5,600 t standard; 6,762 t normal; 7,692 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

475.73 ft / 459.32 ft x 52.49 ft x 18.04 ft (normal load)

145.00 m / 140.00 m x 16.00 m x 5.50 m

Armament:

8 - 5.51" / 140 mm guns (4x2 guns), 83.72lbs / 37.97kg shells, 1944 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring

8 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 12.87lbs / 5.84kg shells, 1944 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists

on side, all amidships

16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1944 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts

24 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (12x2 guns), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1944 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread, 6 raised mounts

Weight of broadside 809 lbs / 367 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 550

8 - 23.6" / 600 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 2.36" / 60 mm 298.56 ft / 91.00 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m

Ends: 0.79" / 20 mm 160.73 ft / 48.99 m 8.20 ft / 2.50 m

Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)

Main: 2.76" / 70 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm

2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.39" / 10 mm 0.39" / 10 mm

3rd: 0.20" / 5 mm - -

4th: 0.20" / 5 mm - -

- Armour deck: 1.57" / 40 mm, Conning tower: 2.76" / 70 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,

Electric motors, 2 shafts, 59,631 shp / 44,484 Kw = 31.25 kts

Range 7,000nm at 20.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 2,092 tons

Complement:

372 - 484

Cost:

£3.229 million / $12.918 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 101 tons, 1.5 %

Armour: 917 tons, 13.6 %

- Belts: 331 tons, 4.9 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Armament: 57 tons, 0.8 %

- Armour Deck: 507 tons, 7.5 %

- Conning Tower: 21 tons, 0.3 %

Machinery: 1,523 tons, 22.5 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,457 tons, 36.3 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,564 tons, 23.1 %

Miscellaneous weights: 200 tons, 3.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

9,704 lbs / 4,402 Kg = 115.9 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 1.5 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16

Metacentric height 2.5 ft / 0.8 m

Roll period: 13.9 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.38

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.02

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has a flush deck

and transom stern

Block coefficient: 0.544

Length to Beam Ratio: 8.75 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 24.59 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 4.10 ft / 1.25 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m

- Forecastle (20 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Mid (50 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Stern: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m

- Average freeboard: 19.82 ft / 6.04 m

Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.5 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 124.8 %

Waterplane Area: 17,418 Square feet or 1,618 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs/sq ft or 412 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.91

- Longitudinal: 2.24

- Overall: 1.00

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

The main change was changing Main Battery layout from A/P/Q/Y to AB/XY (2 superfiring mounts). Speed dropped 0.25 knots while displacement actually dropped 78 tons.

You might think of this as the widened front half of an Atlanta-class CLAA and the widened rear half of an Agano-class CLV. Its main battery is the 125mm DP gun - three mounts on the centreline forward, one on each side amidships. Three 57mm AA mounts are placed on each side, and two additional mounts on top of the aircraft hanger aft. Torpedoes are omitted as space is likely limited and the ship does not have a primary anti-surface role.

The ship's primary feature is the aircraft handling facilities. By way of comparison with Agano/Oyodo, this hull is shorter but wider; I'll guess that a catapult and six aircraft is feasible, though there's miscellaneous weight for more.

The ship would have two roles, and it could conduct either role in defence of trade (convoys) or major warships (task forces):

1) Scouting and submarine suppression with aircaft.
2) Air defence with the main battery.

A limited third role would be anti-surface action; although not really up to slugging it out with light cruisers, all those 125mm guns would not be good for an armored merchant cruiser or small raider.

Savings could be generated by reduced deck or side armor, or by reducing speed, though the latter would restrict the utility of the type in supporting major warships.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1944

Displacement:
7,360 t light; 7,716 t standard; 9,202 t normal; 10,391 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
537.77 ft / 524.93 ft x 62.34 ft x 19.69 ft (normal load)
163.91 m / 160.00 m x 19.00 m x 6.00 m

Armament:
6 - 4.92" / 125 mm guns (3x2 guns), 59.59lbs / 27.03kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline, all forward, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 4.92" / 125 mm guns (2x2 guns), 59.59lbs / 27.03kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships
12 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1944 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1944 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 686 lbs / 311 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 400

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 341.21 ft / 104.00 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
4th: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 73,367 shp / 54,732 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,675 tons

Complement:
469 - 610

Cost:
£3.982 million / $15.929 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 86 tons, 0.9 %
Armour: 1,568 tons, 17.0 %
- Belts: 652 tons, 7.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 53 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 826 tons, 9.0 %
- Conning Tower: 37 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 1,874 tons, 20.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,332 tons, 36.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,842 tons, 20.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 500 tons, 5.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15,209 lbs / 6,899 Kg = 255.2 x 4.9 " / 125 mm shells or 2.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 14.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.19
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.42 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26.51 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Stern: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Average freeboard: 21.72 ft / 6.62 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 81.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 196.4 %
Waterplane Area: 22,672 Square feet or 2,106 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 142 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 93 lbs/sq ft or 453 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 1.97
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Revisiting the Exeter/York small heavy cruiser. Theoretically, a slightly larger ship with an additional metre or so beam and a couple hundred extra tonnes of miscellaneous weight might be capable of shipping a trio of automatic twin 210mm mounts.

Enter ship name, Enter country Enter ship type laid down 1944

Displacement:
9,992 t light; 10,692 t standard; 12,495 t normal; 13,938 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
603.39 ft / 590.55 ft x 65.62 ft x 22.57 ft (normal load)
183.91 m / 180.00 m x 20.00 m x 6.88 m

Armament:
6 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (3x2 guns), 308.65lbs / 140.00kg shells, 1944 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
10 - 4.92" / 125 mm guns (5x2 guns), 59.59lbs / 27.03kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, 1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1944 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2,538 lbs / 1,151 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300
8 - 21.7" / 550 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 383.86 ft / 117.00 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 1.97" / 50 mm 4.72" / 120 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 84,479 shp / 63,021 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,246 tons

Complement:
590 - 768

Cost:
£6.067 million / $24.268 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 298 tons, 2.4 %
Armour: 2,342 tons, 18.7 %
- Belts: 875 tons, 7.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 435 tons, 3.5 %
- Armour Deck: 978 tons, 7.8 %
- Conning Tower: 55 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,157 tons, 17.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,844 tons, 38.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,503 tons, 20.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 351 tons, 2.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18,980 lbs / 8,609 Kg = 67.2 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 2.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
Metacentric height 3.3 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.53
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.10

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.97 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 54
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Stern: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Average freeboard: 21.72 ft / 6.62 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 80.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 156.9 %
Waterplane Area: 26,849 Square feet or 2,494 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 133 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 115 lbs/sq ft or 560 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.67
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

I broke the rules slightly to make a 1945 ship - mostly because I had the design already on hand.

Quoted

Aventurier, French Croisier de sentinelle laid down 1945

Displacement:
4,000 t light; 4,361 t standard; 5,174 t normal; 5,824 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
487.20 ft / 475.72 ft x 49.21 ft x 14.76 ft (normal load)
148.50 m / 145.00 m x 15.00 m x 4.50 m

Armament:
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1945 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 2.24" / 57.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 5.65lbs / 2.56kg shells, 1945 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 0.91" / 23.0 mm guns (8x2 guns), 0.37lbs / 0.17kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 686 lbs / 311 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 650

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.20" / 5 mm
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 69,178 shp / 51,607 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 7,500nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,463 tons

Complement:
304 - 396

Cost:
£3.168 million / $12.670 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 88 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 33 tons, 0.6 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 33 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,747 tons, 33.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,783 tons, 34.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,174 tons, 22.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 6.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
3,312 lbs / 1,502 Kg = 49.4 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
Metacentric height 2.3 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 13.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.13

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.524
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.67 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 65 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 62
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Forecastle (33 %): 23.79 ft / 7.25 m
- Mid (66 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m (14.76 ft / 4.50 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 20.69 ft / 6.31 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 133.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 210.3 %
Waterplane Area: 16,591 Square feet or 1,541 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 113 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 61 lbs/sq ft or 297 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.67
- Longitudinal: 2.00
- Overall: 0.75
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Nice cruiser, Brockpaine. That low hull strength worries me though...

Quoted from "eltf177"

Nice cruiser, Brockpaine. That low hull strength worries me though...

I admit it's low, yes - but it still meets the Wesworld rules for hull strength. *Shrugs*