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Carriers

With the USS Yorktown and USS Enterprise entering their 13th and 10th year since being laid down, thought is being given to refitting them for longer term service in the USN. One possibility is to give both a partial reconstruction, with newer lighter engines, a replacement of the AA suite, and the addition of radar to make these ships more capable. Sim shown below:

USS Yorktown, United States Aircraft Carrier laid down 1931 (Engine 1945)

Displacement:

20,856 t light; 21,481 t standard; 23,857 t normal; 25,758 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught

811.08 ft / 770.00 ft x 83.25 ft x 26.00 ft (normal load)

247.22 m / 234.70 m x 25.37 m x 7.92 m

Armament:

8 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 55.17lbs / 25.02kg shells, 1945 Model

Dual purpose guns in deck mounts

on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring

24 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1945 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring

48 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (24x2 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1945 Model

Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts

on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts

Weight of broadside 492 lbs / 223 kg

Shells per gun, main battery: 500

Armour:

- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)

Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 500.29 ft / 152.49 m 10.95 ft / 3.34 m

Ends: Unarmoured

Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:

2.00" / 51 mm 500.29 ft / 152.49 m 22.62 ft / 6.89 m

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:

Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,

Geared drive, 4 shafts, 121,000 shp / 90,266 Kw = 31.30 kts

Range 12,500nm at 15.00 kts

Bunker at max displacement = 4,278 tons

Complement:

959 - 1,247

Cost:

£5.304 million / $21.217 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:

Armament: 69 tons, 0.3 %

Armour: 3,409 tons, 14.3 %

- Belts: 918 tons, 3.8 %

- Torpedo bulkhead: 837 tons, 3.5 %

- Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %

- Armour Deck: 1,582 tons, 6.6 %

- Conning Tower: 71 tons, 0.3 %

Machinery: 3,056 tons, 12.8 %

Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,322 tons, 34.9 %

Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,002 tons, 12.6 %

Miscellaneous weights: 6,000 tons, 25.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:

Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):

43,511 lbs / 19,736 Kg = 696.2 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 6.0 torpedoes

Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10

Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m

Roll period: 16.4 seconds

Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %

- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.04

Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:

Hull has raised forecastle

Block coefficient: 0.501

Length to Beam Ratio: 9.25 : 1

'Natural speed' for length: 27.75 kts

Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %

Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 40

Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 27.00 degrees

Stern overhang: 21.00 ft / 6.40 m

Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):

- Stem: 39.40 ft / 12.01 m

- Forecastle (22 %): 39.40 ft / 12.01 m (29.75 ft / 9.07 m aft of break)

- Mid (88 %): 29.75 ft / 9.07 m

- Quarterdeck (12 %): 29.75 ft / 9.07 m

- Stern: 29.75 ft / 9.07 m

- Average freeboard: 31.87 ft / 9.71 m

Ship space, strength and comments:

Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95.3 %

- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 252.6 %

Waterplane Area: 42,749 Square feet or 3,971 Square metres

Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 148 %

Structure weight / hull surface area: 113 lbs/sq ft or 551 Kg/sq metre

Hull strength (Relative):

- Cross-sectional: 0.93

- Longitudinal: 1.96

- Overall: 1.00

Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate

Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

72 Aircraft as built

Miscellaneous Weight Breakdown

- 5,184t for 72 planes (72x72)

- 200t for Air Control Operations

- 50t for air search and fire control radar

- 20t for surface search radar

- 50t for integrated radar fire control

- 440t for damage control and fire suppression systems

-56t for growth.

Battleships


The main capital ship problem of the USN is one of numbers and increasing obsolescence. While the Montana's are amongst the largest in the world, by 1953 if no future capital ships are laid down the USN will be reduced to 6 capital ships, something that American pride will not stand for, and quite insufficient for a "2 Ocean Navy." However, other areas like Light Cruisers, submarines, auxillaries, also require attention to say nothing of Carriers. The USN therefore is looking at the smallest possible modern battleship which still can be called a battleship, and is able to fight anything built in the Cleito Era at one for one. 9x14 is the design study shown below, of note the 14in are new build weapons which will have similar performance to those of the OTL 14in designed for the North Carolina class.

New Jersey, United States Battleship laid down 1944

Displacement:
30,862 t light; 32,601 t standard; 35,761 t normal; 38,290 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
717.36 ft / 700.00 ft x 98.00 ft (Bulges 104.00 ft) x 33.00 ft (normal load)
218.65 m / 213.36 m x 29.87 m (Bulges 31.70 m) x 10.06 m

Armament:
9 - 14.00" / 356 mm guns (3x3 guns), 1,575.00lbs / 714.41kg shells, 1944 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (8x2 guns), 55.10lbs / 24.99kg shells, 1944 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
48 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (6x8 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1944 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 15,138 lbs / 6,866 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 14.0" / 356 mm 414.54 ft / 126.35 m 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 91 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
2.50" / 64 mm 414.54 ft / 126.35 m 29.04 ft / 8.85 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 14.0" / 356 mm 8.00" / 203 mm 14.0" / 356 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm

- Armour deck: 5.50" / 140 mm, Conning tower: 15.00" / 381 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 95,000 shp / 70,870 Kw = 28.20 kts
Range 14,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,688 tons

Complement:
1,299 - 1,690

Cost:
£19.037 million / $76.148 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1,679 tons, 4.7 %
Armour: 12,690 tons, 35.5 %
- Belts: 3,565 tons, 10.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,114 tons, 3.1 %
- Armament: 2,728 tons, 7.6 %
- Armour Deck: 4,933 tons, 13.8 %
- Conning Tower: 351 tons, 1.0 %
Machinery: 2,426 tons, 6.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 13,717 tons, 38.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,900 tons, 13.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 350 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
55,690 lbs / 25,261 Kg = 40.6 x 14.0 " / 356 mm shells or 10.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 5.9 ft / 1.8 m
Roll period: 18.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 59 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.55
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.18

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.521
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.73 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 31.14 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.00 ft / 1.83 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 33.00 ft / 10.06 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 19.00 ft / 5.79 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Average freeboard: 21.71 ft / 6.62 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 142.2 %
Waterplane Area: 48,480 Square feet or 4,504 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 114 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 197 lbs/sq ft or 961 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.63
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

The carrier refits make excellent sense.
The New Jersey looks like an efficient battleship and had this been a decade earlier I would have said it was an ideal cheap battleship. However, given the increasing calibre towards the 16in standard now I feel a 3x3 16in design might be more expensive but would offer equal gun power and offer the ability to face the newsest threats, though the 14in should do well against older battleships.

A 16in option adds about 10,000t of weight, as shown below, though that is a conversion from a "Cheaper Montana" which uses a similar level of protection (17in belt, 6.5in deck) and speed but is 12,000t lighter. That option is 3,000t heavier than this one.

USS Oregon, USA Battleship laid down 1945

Displacement:
40,770 t light; 43,117 t standard; 46,362 t normal; 48,959 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
793.94 ft / 780.00 ft x 108.00 ft x 33.50 ft (normal load)
241.99 m / 237.74 m x 32.92 m x 10.21 m

Armament:
9 - 16.00" / 406 mm guns (3x3 guns), 2,700.00lbs / 1,224.70kg shells, 1945 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (8x2 guns), 55.10lbs / 24.99kg shells, 1945 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
56 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (14x4 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, 6 raised mounts - superfiring
48 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (12x4 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, 6 raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 25,286 lbs / 11,470 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 14.0" / 356 mm 450.00 ft / 137.16 m 13.00 ft / 3.96 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 89 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
3.00" / 76 mm 450.00 ft / 137.16 m 24.54 ft / 7.48 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 17.0" / 432 mm 10.0" / 254 mm 17.5" / 445 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm

- Armour deck: 5.50" / 140 mm, Conning tower: 16.00" / 406 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 108,098 shp / 80,641 Kw = 28.00 kts
Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,842 tons

Complement:
1,579 - 2,053

Cost:
£26.672 million / $106.690 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 2,442 tons, 5.3 %
Armour: 15,779 tons, 34.0 %
- Belts: 3,622 tons, 7.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,226 tons, 2.6 %
- Armament: 4,108 tons, 8.9 %
- Armour Deck: 6,379 tons, 13.8 %
- Conning Tower: 445 tons, 1.0 %
Machinery: 2,730 tons, 5.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 19,345 tons, 41.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 5,592 tons, 12.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 475 tons, 1.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
72,924 lbs / 33,078 Kg = 35.6 x 16.0 " / 406 mm shells or 12.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
Metacentric height 6.6 ft / 2.0 m
Roll period: 17.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 59 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.84
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.23

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.575
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.22 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 32.45 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 48
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 17.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 4.40 ft / 1.34 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 31.22 ft / 9.52 m
- Forecastle (21 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Mid (50 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Quarterdeck (22 %): 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Stern: 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Average freeboard: 22.88 ft / 6.98 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 166.4 %
Waterplane Area: 62,693 Square feet or 5,824 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 112 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 227 lbs/sq ft or 1,106 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.48
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

In any case, the latter design has the best name

Not a bad design overall. I see no obvious problems and it looks a capable enough battleship. 10,000 tons means almost another year construction time but in the long run having a common 16in gun might ease the logistics of building a few battleships with a new 14in gun and different ammunition.

Carriers

In addition to the refit for USS Yorktown, upon completion of the USS Essex at the end of 1944, it is decided to lay a new carrier down to be named USS Ticonderoga in the first quarter of 1945. Two more carriers of this class are to be laid down, USS Bunker Hill in the second quarter of 1945 upon completion of USS Wasp, and USS Kearsarge upon completion of USS Intrepid in FY1945. Design of USS Ticonderoga shown below.

USS Ticonderoga, United States Aircraft Carrier laid down 1945

Displacement:
32,267 t light; 33,171 t standard; 36,770 t normal; 39,648 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
901.74 ft / 850.00 ft x 93.00 ft x 27.50 ft (normal load)
274.85 m / 259.08 m x 28.35 m x 8.38 m

Armament:
8 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (4x2 guns), 55.18lbs / 25.03kg shells, 1945 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 55.18lbs / 25.03kg shells, 1945 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
48 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (12x4 guns), 1.70lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
48 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (12x4 guns), 0.25lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 756 lbs / 343 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 350

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.00" / 102 mm 535.28 ft / 163.15 m 11.57 ft / 3.53 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 97 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
2.75" / 70 mm 535.28 ft / 163.15 m 26.18 ft / 7.98 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -

- Armour deck: 2.50" / 64 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 172,374 shp / 128,591 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 6,477 tons

Complement:
1,326 - 1,725

Cost:
£12.623 million / $50.493 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 105 tons, 0.3 %
Armour: 5,415 tons, 14.7 %
- Belts: 1,049 tons, 2.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,426 tons, 3.9 %
- Armament: 102 tons, 0.3 %
- Armour Deck: 2,766 tons, 7.5 %
- Conning Tower: 71 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 4,353 tons, 11.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 11,194 tons, 30.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,503 tons, 12.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 11,200 tons, 30.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
60,053 lbs / 27,240 Kg = 960.9 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 8.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
Roll period: 17.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 65 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.06
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.44

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.592
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.14 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 33.18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 45
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 35.00 ft / 10.67 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.00 ft / 8.84 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 29.00 ft / 8.84 m
- Mid (50 %): 29.00 ft / 8.84 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 29.00 ft / 8.84 m
- Stern: 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Average freeboard: 28.55 ft / 8.70 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 95.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 249.1 %
Waterplane Area: 59,798 Square feet or 5,555 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 141 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 129 lbs/sq ft or 628 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.99
- Longitudinal: 1.11
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

96 aircraft carried
- 48 Grumann F8F Bearcats
- 48 Douglas AD-1 Skyraider

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 9216 tons for airgroup
- 200t for Air Control Operations
- 50t for air search and fire control radar
- 20t surface search radar
- 50t radar integrated fire control
- 250t for flagship facilities
- 500t damage control and fire suppression systems
- 400t for 16 crated planes (25t each).
- 514t for crew comforts

Looks good to me.

Heavy Cruisers

Two improved Los Angeles class cruisers are to be laid down in the first quarter of 1945. The primary improvements are the fitting of the 8in/55RF Mk 16 in place of the 8in/55 Mk15 used on the Los Angeles. Also laid down this fiscal year are three of a new light cruiser class, the Worcester class. Essentially improved Olympia class these ships have the 6in/47DP first used on the Olympia's.

Philadelphia, United States Heavy Cruiser laid down 1945

Displacement:
18,763 t light; 19,638 t standard; 21,441 t normal; 22,883 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
728.78 ft / 720.00 ft x 84.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
222.13 m / 219.46 m x 25.60 m x 7.32 m

Armament:
12 - 8.00" / 203 mm guns (4x3 guns), 335.00lbs / 151.95kg shells, 1945 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (6x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1945 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (2x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1945 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
40 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (10x4 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
52 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (26x2 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 18 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 5,099 lbs / 2,313 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 8.00" / 203 mm 438.48 ft / 133.65 m 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 94 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.00" / 203 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 6.30" / 160 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
3rd: 2.00" / 51 mm 2.00" / 51 mm 2.00" / 51 mm

- Armour deck: 4.00" / 102 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 118,765 shp / 88,598 Kw = 32.50 kts
Range 10,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,245 tons

Complement:
885 - 1,151

Cost:
£10.895 million / $43.579 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 596 tons, 2.8 %
Armour: 5,759 tons, 26.9 %
- Belts: 1,649 tons, 7.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 959 tons, 4.5 %
- Armour Deck: 3,151 tons, 14.7 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,999 tons, 14.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,609 tons, 40.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,678 tons, 12.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 800 tons, 3.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
34,317 lbs / 15,566 Kg = 134.1 x 8.0 " / 203 mm shells or 3.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.08
Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 16.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 68 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.52
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.517
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.57 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.94 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 7.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 4.36 ft / 1.33 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 36.00 ft / 10.97 m
- Forecastle (21 %): 23.00 ft / 7.01 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Stern: 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Average freeboard: 23.08 ft / 7.03 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 71.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 196.8 %
Waterplane Area: 42,580 Square feet or 3,956 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 124 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 141 lbs/sq ft or 690 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.28
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

Notes

- 600t for automated rapid fire 8in
- 110t for Electronic Suite
- 25t for fire control for 8in, 5in, 1.5in guns
- 50t for communications
- 15t for crew comforts (air conditioning, ice cream machine).

USS Worchester, United States Light Cruiser laid down 1944

Displacement:
12,139 t light; 12,773 t standard; 14,377 t normal; 15,660 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
648.57 ft / 640.00 ft x 65.00 ft x 24.00 ft (normal load)
197.69 m / 195.07 m x 19.81 m x 7.32 m

Armament:
12 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (6x2 guns), 130.00lbs / 58.97kg shells, 1944 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
24 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (12x2 guns), 15.00lbs / 6.80kg shells, 1944 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, 6 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (6x2 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1944 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
12 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (6x2 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1944 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 3 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,943 lbs / 881 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.00" / 127 mm 416.00 ft / 126.80 m 10.09 ft / 3.08 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.00" / 203 mm 4.00" / 102 mm 5.00" / 127 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -

- Armour deck: 2.25" / 57 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 100,000 shp / 74,600 Kw = 32.92 kts
Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,888 tons

Complement:
656 - 853

Cost:
£6.607 million / $26.427 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 238 tons, 1.7 %
Armour: 2,883 tons, 20.1 %
- Belts: 875 tons, 6.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 804 tons, 5.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1,204 tons, 8.4 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,554 tons, 17.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 5,864 tons, 40.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,238 tons, 15.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 600 tons, 4.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
24,078 lbs / 10,922 Kg = 222.9 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells or 2.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.03
Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 16.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 85 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.66
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.70

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.504
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.85 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28.89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.00 ft / 9.75 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Mid (50 %): 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Stern: 27.00 ft / 8.23 m
- Average freeboard: 27.40 ft / 8.35 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 77.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 226.8 %
Waterplane Area: 28,931 Square feet or 2,688 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 137 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 533 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.90
- Longitudinal: 2.59
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

210t for automated firing equipment
390t for other stuff.

Looking at the cruiser designs, I see each of them as very good designs on technical merits. What roles are the two designs intended to fill? As ship designs tend to grow larger, I find myself wondering if cruising vessels can be designed to fill niche roles.

The USN is increasingly viewing battleships as expensive investments, and due to simple cost views the carrier task group as the modern replacement for the line of battle. With the aircraft carrier taking the role of doing the primary damage to an enemy, the cruiser in the USN is needed to protect the aircraft carrier from surface and aerial attack as well as to dispatch enemy ships the aircraft carrier has severely damaged. Also, night fighting by naval aircraft off carriers is still in its infancy in the USN, and cruisers and destroyers are needed to protect the carrier when it is most vulnerable. While a battleship can fulfill all those roles, a large cruiser can do so just as effectively and more cost efficient as well.

Destroyers

The final two units of the Ingraham class are to be laid down beginning in the first quarter of 1945. Also beginning this quarter are to be four destroyers of a new class, the Gearing class, 16 of which are planned. Details shown below.

USS Gearing, United States Destroyer laid down 1945

Displacement:
2,590 t light; 2,725 t standard; 3,208 t normal; 3,594 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
392.97 ft / 383.00 ft x 41.00 ft x 14.30 ft (normal load)
119.78 m / 116.74 m x 12.50 m x 4.36 m

Armament:
6 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (3x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1945 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, majority forward
16 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
12 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (6x2 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 5 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 405 lbs / 184 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300
10 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 56,133 shp / 41,875 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 4,500nm at 20.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 869 tons

Complement:
213 - 277

Cost:
£2.261 million / $9.044 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 51 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 21 tons, 0.6 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 21 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,387 tons, 43.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 982 tons, 30.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 618 tons, 19.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 4.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,446 lbs / 656 Kg = 23.1 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.34
Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 11.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.20
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.22

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.34 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.45 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 20.48 ft / 6.24 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 158.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.2 %
Waterplane Area: 10,880 Square feet or 1,011 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 43 lbs/sq ft or 208 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.55
- Longitudinal: 3.59
- Overall: 0.66
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Quoted from "TheCanadian"

The USN is increasingly viewing battleships as expensive investments, and due to simple cost views the carrier task group as the modern replacement for the line of battle. With the aircraft carrier taking the role of doing the primary damage to an enemy, the cruiser in the USN is needed to protect the aircraft carrier from surface and aerial attack as well as to dispatch enemy ships the aircraft carrier has severely damaged. Also, night fighting by naval aircraft off carriers is still in its infancy in the USN, and cruisers and destroyers are needed to protect the carrier when it is most vulnerable. While a battleship can fulfill all those roles, a large cruiser can do so just as effectively and more cost efficient as well.

Then I fear I am confused, or I have not made my questions clear.

You have presented two battleship designs, the New Jersey and the Oregon; the Philadelphia heavy cruiser design, and the Worcester light cruiser design. In view of your statement above, is it your intent to forego the battleships in favor of the Ticonderoga class CV design and both the Philadelphia and Worcester class cruisers?

I was also inquiring as to the role of the Philadelphia vice that of the Worcester design? Do they both fill a screening role or are their roles so distinct that they must both be constructed?

Originally I did plan to build another two battleships, though they would not have been laid down in FY1944 (Q3-1944-Q2-1945) but rather FY1945. At present the USN has decided instead to replace the Oregon class laid down in FY1945 with the USS Kearsarge. Upon completion of the Alaska class battlecruisers in 1947 the situation will be reviewed. You can view the earlier battleship designs as design studies if you wish. The two Ticonderoga class along with the Philadelphia and Worcester classes were always budgeted in for construction in this fiscal year.

At present, the Philadelphia's are expected to fill a role similar to that of the Alaska's or Lexington's, to protect the carriers from surface and aerial attack with the Worcester's being filling the traditional screening role along with destroyers. The USN merely hopes the carriers can disable enemy battleships enough to make engaging one with a trio of heavy cruisers a viable option. The USN is planning for eventually 6 carrier task forces, with the following capital units based around them: Lexington's, Alaska's, Tennessee's, Los Angeles, Philadelphia's.

Quoted from "TheCanadian"

USS Gearing, United States Destroyer laid down 1945

Armament:
6 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (3x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1945 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts on centreline ends, majority forward

Shouldn't there be a superfiring turret?

Good catch.

USS Gearing, United States Destroyer laid down 1945

Displacement:
2,590 t light; 2,725 t standard; 3,208 t normal; 3,594 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
392.97 ft / 383.00 ft x 41.00 ft x 14.30 ft (normal load)
119.78 m / 116.74 m x 12.50 m x 4.36 m

Armament:
6 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns (3x2 guns), 62.50lbs / 28.35kg shells, 1945 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (8x2 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
12 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (6x2 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 5 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 405 lbs / 184 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300
10 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 56,133 shp / 41,875 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 4,500nm at 20.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 869 tons

Complement:
213 - 277

Cost:
£2.261 million / $9.044 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 51 tons, 1.6 %
Armour: 21 tons, 0.6 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 21 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,387 tons, 43.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 982 tons, 30.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 618 tons, 19.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 150 tons, 4.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,435 lbs / 651 Kg = 23.0 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 11.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 61 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.22
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.34 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.45 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.00 ft / 0.91 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Stern: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Average freeboard: 20.48 ft / 6.24 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 158.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 109.2 %
Waterplane Area: 10,880 Square feet or 1,011 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 94 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 43 lbs/sq ft or 208 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.55
- Longitudinal: 3.57
- Overall: 0.66
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

As commissioned, the light AA outfit of the historical Gearings were all over the place, so it is difficult to point to one as standard. However, given the fact that you intend to carry two sets of torpedo tubes, might it make more sense space-wise to put the 1.5-in LAA guns in quad mounts rather than twins? It would likely make it easier to train the forward set of torpedo tubes - presuming the tubes are carried on the centerline (I am assuming your intent is to follow the historical Gearing-class layout).

Submarines

Five additional ships of the Gato class are to be laid down this year.

Landing Craft

120 Landing Craft, Vehicle, Personnel are to be built, with a further 480 on order for the following fiscal year. Although not laid down in this fiscal year, a Landing Ship, Dock design is under consideration for FY1945.

LCVP

Length: 36ft, 3in
Beam: 10ft, 10in
Draught: 3ft aft, 2ft 2in forward
Propulsion: Gray Marine Diesel engine, 225hp
Speed: 12 knots
Displacement: 8t light
Capacity: 6,000lbs vehicle, or 8,100lbs general cargo, or 36 troops
Crew: 4
Armament: 2 .30 cal Browning machine guns

USS Ashland, United States Landing Ship, Dock laid down 1946

Displacement:
5,029 t light; 5,209 t standard; 8,189 t normal; 10,574 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
457.00 ft / 457.00 ft x 72.00 ft x 15.50 ft (normal load)
139.29 m / 139.29 m x 21.95 m x 4.72 m

Armament:
1 - 5.00" / 127 mm guns in single mounts, 55.12lbs / 25.00kg shells, 1946 Model
Dual purpose gun in deck mount
on centreline forward, 1 raised gun
8 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (2x4 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 1.50" / 38.1 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.69lbs / 0.77kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts
16 - 0.75" / 19.1 mm guns (4x4 guns), 0.21lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 79 lbs / 36 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 300

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 5,729 shp / 4,274 Kw = 16.00 kts
Range 28,000nm at 16.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,365 tons

Complement:
429 - 559

Cost:
£1.454 million / $5.817 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 11 tons, 0.1 %
Machinery: 143 tons, 1.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,525 tons, 30.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,161 tons, 38.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,350 tons, 28.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
29,536 lbs / 13,397 Kg = 472.6 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 5.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.29
Metacentric height 4.8 ft / 1.5 m
Roll period: 13.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 92 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.84

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.562
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.35 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25.17 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 33 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m (16.00 ft / 4.88 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 39.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 191.6 %
Waterplane Area: 24,184 Square feet or 2,247 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 301 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 79 lbs/sq ft or 388 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.41
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Notes: 4,011t for water in well deck simmed as fuel. Acutal range is 6,500nm @ 16 knots.

Size of well deck: after part of well deck is 331 ft 4in long, 44 ft wide, 9ft depth of water, forward part of well deck is 55ft long, 27.5in wide, 7ft depth of water. Total weight of water is 4,011 tons

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weight:
Provision for radar and communications equipment: 100t
Provision for vehicle, tank, and landing craft spare parts: 100t
Provision for high capacity pumps: 50t
Provision for small boat repair shop and two cranes: 500t

Boat and Landing Craft Configurations: 1,850t available

The historical Gearing's only carried one quintuple TT mount. If you try and shoehorn a second mount in it I feel it will make the design crowded and topheavy...

Quoted from "eltf177"

The historical Gearing's only carried one quintuple TT mount. If you try and shoehorn a second mount in it I feel it will make the design crowded and topheavy...

Actually, the torpedo fit of the Gearings varied as did their AA outfit. The baseline design called for two sets, and a number of units were completed with them. Others sacrificed a set of tubes for AA guns, and some sacrificed both sets of tubes - as torpedo targets were few in number and kamikazes proliferated, that is a natural progression.

(see Lenton, American Fleet and Escort Destroyers Vol.2, Doubleday, 1961)