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Well, since I'll be leaving for holiday on Thursday, I decided to post my Q3 stuff already.

Japan’s Naval Developments – Q3/1924

A. Industrial Allocation

15/27 factories producing warship material = 15,000 t. No stockpiled materials available. 15,000 t are used, no materials stockpiled.

12/27 factories are dedicated to producing infrastructure material, = 1.2 pts.

B. Infrastructure Development

Type 1 slip at Kure Navy Yard receives 0.3 pts, for a total of 0.4 pts (designation Slip I-1B).
Type 1 slip at Yokosuka Navy Yard receives 0.3 pts, for a total of 0.4 pts (designation Slip I-2B).
Type 1 slip at Kawasaki Co. receives 0.3 pts, for a total of 0.4 pts (designation Slip I-3A).
Type 1 slip at Mitsubushi Co. receives 0.3 pts, for a total of 0.4 pts (designation Slip I-4A).

C. Naval Construction

Kure Navy Yard, Kure (Honshu)
Slip V-1A => BB Kii receives 2379 tons
Slip I-1A => DD2 Fubuki receives 420 tons. Launched 8/15/1924
Slip I-1B => Under construction
Dock V-1A => idle

Yokosuka Navy Yard, Yokosuka (Honshu)
Slip V-2A => idle
Slip I-2A => idle
Slip I-2B => Under construction
Free-floating: GB Go ni Mk.1 IV receives 468 tons.

Kawasaki Co, Kobe (Honshu)
Slip V-3A => idle
Slip II-3A => DD3 Kirihime laid down 7/1/1924. Receives 174 tons.
Slip I-3A => Under construction
Dock II-3A => idle
Free-floating: GB Go ni Mk.2 I receives 762 tons.

Mitsubushi Co, Nagasaki (Kyushu)
Slip V-4A => idle
Slip II-4A => DD3 Ninaris laid down 7/1/1924. Receives 174 tons.
Slip I-4A => Under construction
Dock II-4A => idle
Free-floating: GB Go ni Mk.2 II receives 762 tons.

Fukuoka Navy Yard, Fukuoka (Kyushu)
Slip III-5A => CA Miyazawa Yukino receives 1,853 tons. Launched 9/29/1924
Slip II-5A => DD3 Belkut laid down 7/1/1924. Receives 174 tons.
Slip I-5A => DD2 Shirayuki receives 420 tons. Launched 8/15/1924
Dock III-5A => idle

Hakodate Navy Yard, Hakodate (Hokkaido)
Slip III-6A => CA Sakura Tsubaki receives 1,853 tons. Launched 9/29/1924
Slip II-6A => DD3 Syndra laid down 7/1/1924. Receives 174 tons.
Slip I-6A => DD2 Hatsuyuki receives 420 tons. Launched 8/15/1924

Aomori Navy Yard, Aomori (Honshu)
Slip III-7A => CDS Atatake laid down 7/1/1924. Receives 1239 tons.
Slip I-7A => DD2 Murakumo receives 420 tons. Launched 8/15/1924
Dock I-7A => idle

Kagoshima Navy Yard, Kagoshima (Kyushu)
Slip III-8A => DD3 Corona laid down. Receives 174 tons.
Slip I-8A => idle
Dock I-8A => idle
Slip 0-8A => idle
Slip 0-8B => idle
Dock 0-8A => idle
Free-floating: GB Go ni Mk.1 III receives 468 tons.

Wakayama Navy Yard, Wakayama (Honshu)
Slip III-9A => DD3 Lapis laid down 7/1/1924. Receives 174 tons.
Slip I-9A => DD2 Akatsuki receives 426 tons. Launched 8/15/1924
Dock I-9A => idle

Tokushima Navy Yard, Tokushima (Shikoku)
Slip III-10A => DD3 Hugtrang laid down 7/1/1924. Receives 174 tons.
Slip I-10A =>DD2 Hibiki receives 426 tons. Launched 8/15/1924
Dock I-10A => idle

Niigata Navy Yard, Niigata (Honshu)
Slip I-11A => idle
Slip I-11B => DD2 Inazuma receives 426 tons. Launched 8/15/1924
Dock III-11A => idle
Free-floating: GB Go ni Mk.1 V receives 468 tons.

Niihama Navy Yard, Niihama (Shikoku)
Slip I-12A => idle
Slip I-12B => DD2 Ikazuchi receives 426 tons. Launched 8/15/1924
Dock III-12A => idle
Free-floating: GB Go ni Mk.1 VI receives 468 tons.

D. Transactions

none.

E. Other Notes

DD3 Urazen Sie, Poesche Nomien, Sharie Randers Krötenschwanz, Bijotorn Corlala, State Ballo Kaiedia, Nu. Suoad Graphight, Iemrah Lout Jajas, Mishalu Ha Lonn, John Weinzel, Allen Braford, Maximum Holtfors Balance Kaien, Qukey, and Bugle de Leizer complete shakedown cruises.

DD3 Ko Fan Shiemar, Amaterasu dis Greens Ooe LED, Huselles Carliey, Eidrian Tag, Myoury Kinky, Sir Bester Orbit, Picking Harres, Vralgo Kentauri, Blreno Canzian, Barbaluse V., Trao Ballanka, Mell Sacheir, Mell Rince Usare Tama, Zoom, Daizina Meister, Label Judah, Maiyu Sukat, Iler the Bishop, Palu Suyene, Viscount Huah von Hitter, Muse van Reyback, Meeth Silver, Dimor Hiahraki, Jabo Beat, Senkoukei Tomoe, Michael Lester, and Dougulus Kaien continue shakedown cruises.


New units laid down this quarter:
Coast Defense Ship Atatake requires 7499 tons and 16.5 months
Destroyers Syndra, Belkut, Kirihime, Ninaris, Corona, Lapis, Hugtrang of the FSS: F class require 581 tons and 10 months

F. Updated Order of Battle, 31/9/24

Note: Y)+Z = completed (under repair/refit) + under construction

Limited warships:
Battleships: 6(0)+1
Aircraft Carriers: 3(0)+0
Heavy Cruisers: 4(0)+2
Light Cruisers: 14(0)+0
Destroyers class 1: 0(0)+0
Destroyers class 2: 22(0)+8
Submarines: 7(0)+0
Coast Defense Vessels: 3(0)+1
Museum ships: 2(0)+0

Non-limited Warships
Destroyers class 3: 175(0)+7
Gunboats: 26(0)+6
Minelayers: 27(0)+0
Minesweepers: 18(0)+0
Submarine Chasers class 1: 30(0)+0
Submarine Chasers class 2: 42(0)+0
Corvettes: 30(0)+0

Auxiliaries:
Ammunition ships: 3
Oilers: 9
Cargo ships: 32
Transport ships: 16
Tenders: 7
Repair ships: 5
Netlayer and target towing vessel: 4
Naval Tugs: 12

Atatake, Japan Coast Defense Ship laid down 1924
Ships: 2. Atatake, Urarake

Displacement:
7,499 t light; 7,991 t standard; 8,919 t normal; 9,627 t full load
Loading submergence 505 tons/feet

Dimensions:
440.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 21.50 ft (normal load)
134.11 m x 18.29 m x 6.55 m

Armament:
4 - 28.0 cm (11.02") / 50 cal Model 1924 guns in 2 Main turrets x 2 guns
4 - 15.0 cm (5.91") / 45 cal Model 1921 guns in 2 2nd turrets x 2 guns, 2 superfiring turrets; b and x
16 - 10.5 cm (4.13") / 50 cal Model 1921 guns in 8 3rd turrets x 2 guns (*)
8 - 50 mm (1.97") / 60 cal Model 1918 AA guns (*)
18 - 25 mm (0.98") / 60 cal Model 1918 light AA guns (*)
Weight of broadside 3,755 lbs / 1,703 kg

Armour:
Belt 13.14" / 334 mm + 0.36 / 9.1mm steel plate backing inclined at 10 degrees, decapping plate 1.21" / 31 mm (= upper belt), ends unarmoured
Belts cover 60 % of normal area
Main turrets 10.00" / 254 mm, 2nd turrets 2.00" / 51 mm, 3nd turrets 1.00" / 25 mm (**)
AA gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm, Light AA gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm
Armour deck 4.00" / 102 mm, Conning tower 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 14,529 shp / 10,839 Kw = 20.00 kts
Range 7,000nm at 15.00 kts

Complement:
38 officers 550 other rank (458 - 596)

Cost:
£2.237 million / $8.949 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 469 tons, 5.3 %
Armour: 3,149 tons, 35.3 %
Belts: 984 tons, 11.0 %, Armament: 828 tons, 9.3 %, Armour Deck: 1,309 tons, 14.7 %
Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 479 tons, 5.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,353 tons, 37.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,420 tons, 15.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.6 %

Metacentric height 2.6

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable and able to fight her guns in the heaviest weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.06
Shellfire needed to sink: 14,169 lbs / 6,427 Kg = 137.6 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 2.6
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 71 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.87
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.52

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.550
Sharpness coefficient: 0.39
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 6.49
'Natural speed' for length: 20.98 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 45 %
Trim: 47
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 59.4 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 108.9 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 113 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.93
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 122 lbs / square foot or 598 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.84
(for 14.80 ft / 4.51 m average freeboard)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00

(*) 10.5 cm gun was simmed in the AA position and the 50 mm and 25 mm guns were simmed together as 50 mm guns
(**) Since the 10.5 was simmed in the AA position, I simmed with 1.01 inch of armor to double the armor weight for turrets.

At one point I looked for some small coast Defense Battleship rather than a regular coast defense ship or a monitor or an escort cruiser. I was thinking (don't know why) of a smaller version of the Coastal Defense Battleship Fuji.
Armor-wise this version looked very impressive for its size (perhaps even too much). Immune to an AP shell fired by the Filipino Cruiser Basilian at (probably) any range.
However when I tried to draw it, It looked like a Battleship that had a horrific accident (drawing the final version, which has the same dimensions as one of the previous versions which I posted some time ago, looks already bad enough).
^_^;;
I like weird and unusual designs, but this one was just too ugly.

Atatake, Japan Coast Defense Battleship laid down 1924

Displacement:
7,545 t light; 7,995 t standard; 9,035 t normal; 9,830 t full load
Loading submergence 472 tons/feet

Dimensions:
350.00 ft x 70.50 ft x 23.30 ft (normal load)
106.68 m x 21.49 m x 7.10 m

Armament:
4 - 11.14" / 283 mm guns (2 Main turrets x 2 guns)
12 - 4.13" / 105 mm guns (6 2nd turrets x 2 guns, 2 superfiring turrets)
16 - 1.57" / 40 mm AA guns
18 - 0.98" / 25 mm guns
Weight of broadside 3,230 lbs / 1,465 kg

Armour:
Belt 16.14" / 410 mm with 0.36" / 9.1mm steel plate backing angled at 10 degrees and 1.50" / 38 mm decappping plate (=upper belt), ends unarmoured
Belts cover 54 % of normal area
Main turrets 10.00" / 254 mm, 2nd turrets 2.00" / 51 mm
AA gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm, Light gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm
Armour deck 2.4-8.4" (61-213mm) MNC (6.00" / 152 mm), Conning tower 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 14,000 shp / 10,444 Kw = 19.18 kts
Range 7,500nm at 15.00 kts

Complement:
463 - 602

Cost:
£2.064 million / $8.256 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 404 tons, 4.5 %
Armour: 3,665 tons, 40.6 %
Belts: 977 tons, 10.8 %, Armament: 825 tons, 9.1 %, Armour Deck: 1,835 tons, 20.3 %
Conning Tower: 28 tons, 0.3 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 461 tons, 5.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,915 tons, 32.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,490 tons, 16.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 1.1 %

Metacentric height 3.3

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.06
Shellfire needed to sink: 15,088 lbs / 6,844 Kg = 427.2 x 4.1 " / 105 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 3.2
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 71 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.43
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.24

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.550
Sharpness coefficient: 0.44
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 5.14
'Natural speed' for length: 18.71 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim: 57
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 53.2 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 95.2 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 114 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.89
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 121 lbs / square foot or 593 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 2.71
(for 14.00 ft / 4.27 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment -0.84 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00

Having said that it's that ugly, you just have to post the drawing!!!!

Unfortunately, it was so ugly that the computer crashed before I could save it.
T_T

Oh, I see that I did save it. Looking at it now, it looks worse than I remembered.
^_^;;

Sounds like your design makes the elephant man look like GQ material.

well, don't keep use in suspence..........

You say it fell outa the Ugly Tree and hit every branch on the way down?

I think we gotta see this puppy...

More like it got beaten with the ugly stick, common Walter do your worst!!! We'l try not to cringe too much......0_@

Yes, we're scarred veterans of dozens of ugly ships, real or not(honorable mentions for both categories are Dupuy de Lome and the Fumaha). What's another abortion to us?

With two main battery turrets and super-firing secondaries, I expect she'd have some similiarities to my Akbar...which hopefully doesn't mean that Akbar's drawing left you blind and insane.

Lay it on us; we can take it. At the worst, it might be like the Monty Python, "World's Deadliest Joke" that killed whoever read it.

J

Ok, I think it's time to get serious

Repeat after me guys....


"Show us the ship!!"
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"Show Us The Ship!"

"Before We Pitch A Fit!"

Don't worry guys. I'll show you the ship...
... someday... together with the other ship drawings I have.
:-)
But first it is time for my holiday. I'll be leaving on Thursday and won't be back until September 24. During those five weeks, I won't have access to my stuff, and if all goes according to plan, I will only have access to the board during the first and last week. I won't have any computer around during the three weeks in the middle.

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With two main battery turrets and super-firing secondaries, I expect she'd have some similiarities to my Akbar

The original Atatake design I wanted to use (there was one version before that, but it was reasonably normal) had 2x2 30 cm main guns with 2x2 20cm guns superfiring the main guns. This was actually a design that was created almost a year ago, well before your Akbar design.
The original idea for the mini Coast Defense Battleship was to use the superfiring 10.5 cm guns on the centerline, but with the main guns, the superstructure and the rather short hull, there wasn't really any place for that so I decided to have all secondaries along the beam. Though I haven't changed it in the sim of the ship, I found out that it would be better to have no superfiring secondary turrets at all.

Enjoy the holiday!!!!

I most definitely will. :-)