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Monday, March 12th 2007, 4:05am

India - Super-Duper Compressed Q1/34 Report

Just so you're not operating in an information vacuum during these interesting times:

3 factories to infrastructure, eight to warship goodies.

1.1 pts in from COSINE, for 1.4 pts total. Invested in D3 at Male, now at 3.3 pts total.

Q1 Lay-downs:

Reported standard displacement and speed likely a bit lower than actual numbers presented below...

1 x Kanpur class light cruiser: 9016 t, 12x15 cm, 16x55 cm TT, 33.0 kts
2 x Kudligi-34 type escorts: 1124 t, 4x12.5 cm, 4x55 cm TT, 22.6 kts
2 x Magar Macchh class dakuu: 2049 t, 6x12.5cm, 8x55 cm TT (+reloads or mines), 34.1 kts
2 x Miraj class destroyer, as previously posted
1 x submarine tender conversion, as previously posted
1 x modified Talwar class aircraft carrier for the Philippines. Ask Alikchi.
2 x sloops (S118, S119) scrapped but machinery retained and refitted.

Still Building:

CV Val
3 x Miraj class DD (#4-6)
BB Mahmudieh for Turkey

Q1 Completions:

CV Talwar, end of quarter.

Kaiser Kirk

Lightbringer and former European Imperialist

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Monday, March 12th 2007, 4:07am

Thanks Rocky :)

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Monday, March 12th 2007, 4:11am

You're welcome. Sorry for the lack of terrifying beasties...that's Walter's job.

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Monday, March 12th 2007, 4:14am

Gah, hate to ask for the building shedual of Mahmudieh but it seems to be on the other computer! I've yet to post Q1/34

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Monday, March 12th 2007, 4:42am

I believe she's available to annoy Greece on the first day of Q4.

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Monday, March 12th 2007, 5:15am

If you ask Roger, a Turkish carly float would do that just fine!

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Tuesday, March 13th 2007, 11:54am

I heard that : P

AIGF.

2nd BB rebuild will rejoin Jun35 and new BB will join Dec35. A second carrier and large cruiser will join the fleet in mid 34. I'm not too worried but it helps the domestic politics if you can point to a bogie man.

Cheers,

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Wednesday, March 14th 2007, 10:08am

Just for info, here's the modified Talwar - Sibuyan.

Aircraft capacity & hangar/elevator layout is essentially identical to Talwar. The major changes include Filipino 115mm weapons instead of Indian 105s, and slightly modified superstructure.



Sibuyan, Filipino carrier laid down 1934

Displacement:
16,027 t light; 16,518 t standard; 18,657 t normal; 20,369 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
684.38 ft / 684.38 ft x 81.69 ft x 23.36 ft (normal load)
208.60 m / 208.60 m x 24.90 m x 7.12 m

Armament:
16 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns (8x2 guns), 48.50lbs / 22.00kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
30 - 1.38" / 35.0 mm guns (15x2 guns), 1.32lbs / 0.60kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
16 - 0.54" / 13.7 mm guns (4x4 guns), 0.11lbs / 0.05kg shells, 1934 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 817 lbs / 371 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 250

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 466.99 ft / 142.34 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 105 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.97" / 50 mm 466.99 ft / 142.34 m 9.84 ft / 3.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.59" / 15 mm -
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.15" / 80 mm, Conning tower: 2.36" / 60 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 101,876 shp / 76,000 Kw = 31.87 kts
Range 20,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,851 tons

Complement:
797 - 1,037

Cost:
£5.172 million / $20.686 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 98 tons, 0.5 %
Armour: 3,050 tons, 16.4 %
- Belts: 379 tons, 2.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 335 tons, 1.8 %
- Armament: 43 tons, 0.2 %
- Armour Deck: 2,257 tons, 12.1 %
- Conning Tower: 36 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 2,931 tons, 15.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,027 tons, 32.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,631 tons, 14.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 3,920 tons, 21.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
27,317 lbs / 12,391 Kg = 588.7 x 4.5 " / 115 mm shells or 4.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
Metacentric height 4.2 ft / 1.3 m
Roll period: 16.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 75 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.10
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.38 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.28 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 30.18 ft / 9.20 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.77 ft / 6.33 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.77 ft / 6.33 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 20.77 ft / 6.33 m
- Stern: 20.77 ft / 6.33 m
- Average freeboard: 21.52 ft / 6.56 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 104.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 192.3 %
Waterplane Area: 38,738 Square feet or 3,599 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 137 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 535 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.15
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Saturday, March 31st 2007, 8:03am

IIRC Turkish payments will be..

Q1-0.2 IP's
Q2-0.3 IP's
Q3-0.2 IP's
Q4-0.3 IP's

Also have you SATSUMA players found anyone interested in caretaking for India in Rocky's absence?

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Wednesday, May 23rd 2007, 3:57am

Since I've got the old spreadsheet open to give Perdedor the Fillie data, why not summarize what I'd had in mind for India in 1934? Bear in mind that the following includes stuff mentioned as laid down in Q1/34, above:

Laid down:

2 x Kanpur class CL
2 x CLAA (the names escape me...)
2 x Miraj class DD
4 x Kudligi-34 class sloops
2 x Magar Macchh class dakuu
2 x APD derived from the Kudligi class sloops
6 x Anti-submarine launches
10 x MTB

Conversions to Service:

1 x Submarine tender (stats previously posted)
1 x Repair ship (50% rebuild of a ~5000 t freighter)

Scrapped:

2 x S-114 class sloops, with machinery vanguarded and refurbished.

Foreign Stuff:

Filipino CV Sibuyan laid down Q1
Philippines buys ex-Peruvian CDBB Lima, Q3-4
Turkish BB Mahmudieh goes home Q4
Some old stuff goes (or went already) to Peru

Infrastructure:

The bulk of the COSINE funding was coming in during 1934, so in sequence, India:

-finished a D3 at Male
-built a D1 at Mumbai
-built a D0 at As Salif, Asir
-loaned Persia 0.5 IP to speed up drydock construction there (to be paid back as warship material in '35)
-got 1.4 pts into a D1 at Trincomalee