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This has been received by the Nordmark Government and also been presented to the League of Nations:

The Government of Enrique III, by the Grace of God King of Iberia, extends it's warmest sympathies to the Crown and People of the Kingdom of Nordmark for their recent bereavement and express the shock and horror at the actions of the Argentinian government. All assets of Argentinia in Iberia have been frozen and all Argentinian merchant and naval vessels in Iberian ports have been interned.

His Majesty's Government calls upon the Argentinian Government to immediately apologize to the Government and people of Nordmark and pay full reparations as well as ending the unlawful occupation of South Georgia.

His Majesty's Government trusts that the Kingdom of Nordmark will in due course inform the League of Nations of the proof it has for the allegations it made so publicly and will also inform the League of Nations of it's war aims and the reparations it requires from Argentinia.

His Majesty's Government offers the services of the Iberian diplomatic corps in any communications that Nordmark needs to make with Argentinia and in any negotiations needed in order tomake this war as short as possible.

Diplomatic note from the Nordmark government
[SIZE=1]The note has appeared in Nordmark and Iberian newspapers June 31st, one day after it was handed over to the Iberian diplomatic representative in Stockholm and the Iberian Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Madrid.[/SIZE]

The Government of the Kingdom of Nordmark thanks fair Iberia for her most gracious message of sympathy, as well as the actions taken with regards to Argentina. The Kingdom of Nordmark hereby confirms its intent that in time, as it is properly organised, proof will be presented to non-belligerent nations.

The Government of Nordmark thanks Iberia for the offer of its diplomatic services, but is of the belief that diplomacy is of little further use in this conflict. However, should Argentina be so inclined as to pursue a course of diplomacy, these are the non-negotiable terms the Kingdom of Nordmark demands be met, for a peaceful resolution to be possible.

1. The government of Argentina must make all payments of reparations in US gold dollars.
   
2. The government of Argentina and its military forces must immediately cease all belligerent activity, and must immediately evacuate the island of South Georgia, and any other territory claimed by Nordmark onwhich Argentine forces are present.
   
3. The government of Argentina must immediately release all Nordmark citizens held in captivity, in custody, or in detention.
   
4. The government of Argentina must agree to pay war-reparations as follow:
   - For each member of the Nordmark Government or of the Nordmark Royal Family: 1 000 000 US dollars, in gold, to the Government of Nordmark
   - For each Nordmark military serviceman or -woman killed or injured: 25 000 US dollars, in gold, to the family of the killed or injured
   - For each Nordmark civilian killed or injured: 50 000 US dollars, in gold, to the family of the killed or injured
   - For each civilian vessel sunk or damaged: 1 000 US dollars, in gold, per unit of gross tonnage, to the owner of the vessel
   - For each Nordmark vessel of war, or fishery protection vessel, damaged or sunk: 2 000 US dollars, in gold, per ton standard displacement, to the Government of Nordmark
   
5. The government of Argentina must surrender to the Government of Nordmark all Argentine naval vessels displacing more than 600 tons standard displacement, or else scuttle the same vessels in more than 3000 feet / 900 metres of water.
   
6. The government of Argentina must oblige itself for perpetuity to never construct or otherwise acquire a naval vessel of greater than 600 tons standard displacement.
   
7. The government of Argentina must oblige itself for perpetuity to never construct or otherwise acquire submarines
   
8. The government of Argentina must oblige itself for perpetuity to never construct or otherwise acquire aeroplanes or aeroships.
   
9. The government of Argentina must oblige itself for perpetuity to never allow the size of its army to exceed 100 000 men and officers, reserves included.
   
10. The government of Argentina must oblige itself for perpetuity to never institute compulsive military or government service.
    
11. The government of Argentina must surrender to Nordmark authorities the PResident of teh Republic of Argentina, the Prime Minister of the Republic of Argentina, the Commanding General of the Army of the Republic of Argentina, and the Commanding Admiral of the Navy of the Republic of Argentina, to stand trial for crimes of war.
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    At this point in time, the Government of Nordmark finds it fortuitous to clarify that the war inwhich it finds itself - against its own will and intentions - will, if a peaceful resolution is not found, not from the side of the Kingdom of Nordmark be prosecuted as a war of trade, of raiding ships on the high seas. This will be a military campaign, with military objectives, and the utmost care will be taken not to harm non-belligerent entities.
    
    [SIZE=1]I should point out that by the above standard alone Argentina has already acrued demands for war-reparations probably upwards of 65 millions US dollars in gold.[/SIZE]

OOP: If these are your "non-negotiable terms" then I see indeed no chance for any diplomacy.

Further more one wonders f Argentina really is that isolated in the world. I doubt it and wonder how nations with good relations to Argentina would react in the current situations and who those nations are or could be? As it is all players have choosen to be against Argentina or at least neutral and some have even put non-player nations on that list.
Britain for sure will support Nordmark but what about the USA? What about Some of the othe south american ABC powers?

Due to everybodies reaction one gets the impression Argetina is totally isolated and one wonders if such a nation would ever have raised its voice against a larger power (even though it is far away) without knowing it will have some support?

And being somewhat late with my own news I haven´t even written down the SAEs reaction - and I guess most players here have a good idea how the SAE will react - which is in some ways directly involved.

So does Argentina really goes up against Nordmark and maybe one or to friendly or allied powers without any support? Looks like a suicidal mission to me...

Cheers,

HoOmAn

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Due to everybodies reaction one gets the impression Argetina is totally isolated and one wonders if such a nation would ever have raised its voice against a larger power (even though it is far away) without knowing it will have some support?

Well, the actions taken by the Argentine government are so reprehensible that civilized governments have no choice but to condemn and oppose them. If the French and Russian governments were the suspicious sort, they might conclude that the Argentine government is being run by Nordmark Military Intelligence for the purpose of providing pretexts for war.

There will be a word or two about the ABC-powers eventually. She is not alone. I propose to also undertake to formulate the US response - for the record, USA will be supportive of Nordmark undertaking limited wargoals, but is deeply skeptical of uninvolved nations taking too big a role, and might go so far as to offer Argentine vessels some form of sanctuary against other neutral nations.

"Well, the actions taken by the Argentine government are so reprehensible that civilized governments have no choice but to condemn and oppose them."

Really? I mean, this is not 9-11 or something other terroristical attack out of the blue. Argentina is claiming these territories for a very long time and nobody listened to them.

This story is not totally black and white to me as a player. For the SAE it is a completely different thing of course...

Cheers,

HoOmAn

After searching the seized Argentinian vessels for contraband they have been released and escorted out of Iberian territorial waters. The Argentinian Government has been informed that the frozen assets may be removed from Iberia or can stay in Iberia but will remain frozen until the end of the war.

Iberian territorial waters have been closed to the naval vessels of both belligerent nations and any merchant vessels will have to submit to boarding adand a search for contraband.

OOC: you have a point folks

I believe that historically, it was only the belligerent nations which stopped and searched neutral merchant-vessels for contraband; neutral nations contended themselves to verifying that the vessels were indeed merchant-vessels, and not naval auxiliaries (f.ex. Altmark) or AMCs.

Edited to add: Of course, these non-negotiable terms are not intended to be a likely basis for negotiations - negotiations are currently not in the front of the mind of the average Nordmark citizen.

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Really? I mean, this is not 9-11 or something other terroristical attack out of the blue

Actually, the regicide was precisely a terroristical attack out of the blue, and an extensively prepared and highly sophisticated one at that. The intelligence agency responsible had to obtain the precise choreography of the intended maneuver, as well as sufficient access to KNM Urho Saanio to place an extremely large explosive device there and ensure that it was not discovered prior to the exercise. Given the well-known loyalty and efficiency of the Nordmark Navy, this cannot be explained, except as result of a substantial penetration of that organization by the hostile intelligence service.

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Originally posted by AdmKuznetsov

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Really? I mean, this is not 9-11 or something other terroristical attack out of the blue

Actually, the regicide was precisely a terroristical attack out of the blue, and an extensively prepared and highly sophisticated one at that. The intelligence agency responsible had to obtain the precise choreography of the intended maneuver, as well as sufficient access to KNM Urho Saanio to place an extremely large explosive device there and ensure that it was not discovered prior to the exercise. Given the well-known loyalty and efficiency of the Nordmark Navy, this cannot be explained, except as result of a substantial penetration of that organization by the hostile intelligence service.

Are you really sure of the facts or are you guessing? Have you seen any evidence for such a terroristical attack? All the world got so far is a short news flash...

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Are you really sure of the facts or are you guessing?

Guessing. But a guess that is informed by deep understanding of the ways of this wicked world.

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Have you seen any evidence for such a terroristical attack?

No. But it is the only explanation that accords with the facts presently known.

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All the world got so far is a short news flash

Come now... Parnu and Tallinn aren't that far from Karlskrona.

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Originally posted by Pengolodh_sc
I believe that historically, it was only the belligerent nations which stopped and searched neutral merchant-vessels for contraband; neutral nations contended themselves to verifying that the vessels were indeed merchant-vessels, and not naval auxiliaries (f.ex. Altmark) or AMCs.

poor phrasing on my part, sorry

Bernhard

With the facts known so far it would seem at the very least Argentina is guilty of ellegally ocupying Nordmark Territory and holding Nordmark citizens captive, this alone warrants support from the Democracy's of the world. Germany and japan may be traditional supporters of Argentina but they may have their own reasons for not supporting them. Other nations have condemned the actions of Argentina and still remain Nuetral....but its still early and some events may change public opinion so i think its too early to tell if its too one sided.