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Friday, August 22nd 2008, 1:15am

Iberian Coastal sub

Does she look ok?


E Class, Iberia Submarine (Coastal) laid down 1936

Displacement:
483 t light; 494 t standard; 548 t normal; 591 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
148.58 ft / 147.64 ft x 16.40 ft (Bulges 19.69 ft) x 13.12 ft (normal load)
45.29 m / 45.00 m x 5.00 m (Bulges 6.00 m) x 4.00 m

Armament:
2 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1936 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mount
on centreline amidships, all raised guns - superfiring
Weight of broadside 1 lbs / 0 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 1,000
5 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators plus batteries,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 1,603 shp / 1,196 Kw = 16.00 kts
Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 97 tons

Complement:
56 - 73

Cost:
£0.123 million / $0.491 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 45 tons, 8.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 338 tons, 61.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 65 tons, 11.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 18.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
103 lbs / 47 Kg = 215.4 x 1.0 " / 25 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.04
Metacentric height 0.4 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 13.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 7 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.02

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.503
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.50 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.15 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Stern: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Average freeboard: 1.11 ft / 0.34 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 173.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 6.6 %
Waterplane Area: 1,618 Square feet or 150 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 287 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 113 lbs/sq ft or 551 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 3.92
- Longitudinal: 4.87
- Overall: 4.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

Diving depth = 400'
Emergency dive = 640
Crush depth = 1000'

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Friday, August 22nd 2008, 6:17pm

A deck gun would probably be useful.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Red Admiral" (Aug 22nd 2008, 6:20pm)


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Friday, August 22nd 2008, 6:48pm

Indeed!

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Friday, August 22nd 2008, 7:59pm

Ask, and it will be given to you.....

E Class, Iberia Submarine (Coastal) laid down 1936

Displacement:
494 t light; 506 t standard; 552 t normal; 588 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
145.30 ft / 144.36 ft x 16.40 ft (Bulges 19.69 ft) x 13.12 ft (normal load)
44.29 m / 44.00 m x 5.00 m (Bulges 6.00 m) x 4.00 m

Armament:
1 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1936 Model
Dual purpose gun in deck mount
on centreline amidships, 1 raised gun
2 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns (1x2 guns), 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1936 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mount
on centreline amidships, all raised guns - superfiring
Weight of broadside 31 lbs / 14 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100
5 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators plus batteries,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 1,643 shp / 1,225 Kw = 16.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 82 tons

Complement:
56 - 74

Cost:
£0.143 million / $0.570 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 tons, 0.7 %
Machinery: 46 tons, 8.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 344 tons, 62.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 58 tons, 10.6 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 18.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
74 lbs / 34 Kg = 2.4 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.03
Metacentric height 0.4 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 13.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 7 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.02
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.02

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.518
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.33 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 12.01 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Stern: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Average freeboard: 1.11 ft / 0.34 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 204.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 6.5 %
Waterplane Area: 1,604 Square feet or 149 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 247 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 116 lbs/sq ft or 568 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 3.89
- Longitudinal: 5.06
- Overall: 4.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is extremely poor
Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

Diving depth = 400'
Emergency dive = 640'
Crush depth = 1000'

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Friday, August 22nd 2008, 9:43pm

Or maybe a little smaller......

E Class(4), Iberia Submarine laid down 1936

Displacement:
376 t light; 386 t standard; 402 t normal; 415 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
132.18 ft / 131.23 ft x 13.12 ft (Bulges 19.69 ft) x 13.12 ft (normal load)
40.29 m / 40.00 m x 4.00 m (Bulges 6.00 m) x 4.00 m

Armament:
1 - 3.94" / 100 mm guns in single mounts, 30.51lbs / 13.84kg shells, 1936 Model
Breech loading gun in deck mount
on centreline amidships, 1 raised gun
2 - 0.98" / 25.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.48lbs / 0.22kg shells, 1936 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 31 lbs / 14 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100
5 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion generators plus batteries,
Electric motors, 2 shafts, 1,053 shp / 786 Kw = 15.00 kts
Range 2,000nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 30 tons

Complement:
44 - 58

Cost:
£0.109 million / $0.434 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 4 tons, 1.0 %
Machinery: 30 tons, 7.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 267 tons, 66.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 26 tons, 6.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 75 tons, 18.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
27 lbs / 12 Kg = 0.9 x 3.9 " / 100 mm shells or 0.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.03
Metacentric height 0.3 ft / 0.1 m
Roll period: 16.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 7 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.01
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.02

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.415
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.67 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 11.46 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 1.64 ft / 0.50 m (0.00 ft / 0.00 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Stern: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
- Average freeboard: 0.82 ft / 0.25 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 281.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 3.5 %
Waterplane Area: 1,070 Square feet or 99 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 243 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 113 lbs/sq ft or 553 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 3.81
- Longitudinal: 6.20
- Overall: 4.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is extremely poor
Room for accommodation and workspaces is extremely poor
Ship has quick, lively roll, not a steady gun platform
Caution: Lacks seaworthiness - very limited seakeeping ability

Dive depth - 400'
Emergency depth - 640'
Crush depth - 1000'