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this one started life as 4.5" DD but ended up as 5.25" CL and shes good on paper but the armors a bit thin side well what do think of her



mackey, Australia ligth crusers laid down 1933

Displacement:
6,083 t light; 6,263 t standard; 7,081 t normal; 7,707 t full load
Loading submergence 355 tons/feet

Dimensions:
466.00 ft x 44.00 ft x 25.50 ft (normal load)
142.04 m x 13.41 m x 7.77 m

Armament:
6 - 5.25" / 133 mm guns (3 Main turrets x 2 guns)
15 - 1.56" / 40 mm AA guns
20 - 0.80" / 20 mm guns
Weight of broadside 468 lbs / 212 kg
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Belt 3.00" / 76 mm, ends unarmoured
Belts cover 115 % of normal area
Main belt does not fully protect magazines and engineering spaces
Main turrets 2.00" / 51 mm, AA gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm, Light gun shields 2.00" / 51 mm
Armour deck 1.30" / 33 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 96,887 shp / 72,277 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 13,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
385 - 501

Cost:
£3.107 million / $12.428 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 58 tons, 0.8 %
Armour: 763 tons, 10.8 %
Belts: 339 tons, 4.8 %, Armament: 125 tons, 1.8 %, Armour Deck: 299 tons, 4.2 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,823 tons, 39.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,438 tons, 34.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 998 tons, 14.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 1.5

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable and able to fight her guns in the heaviest weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.02
Shellfire needed to sink: 4,260 lbs / 1,932 Kg = 58.9 x 5.3 " / 133 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.7
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 100 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.64
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.72

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.474
Sharpness coefficient: 0.32
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 7.42
'Natural speed' for length: 21.59 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 64 %
Trim: 65
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 135.6 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 107.5 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 103 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.88
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 84 lbs / square foot or 413 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 3.07
(for 23.90 ft / 7.28 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 9.77 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00

this is my Mackay as a 4.5" gun DD and i had the idear for her a 7 weeks a go so these no way im coping of you HoOmAn


mackey, Australia Destoryer laid down 1937

Displacement:
3,171 t light; 3,277 t standard; 3,624 t normal; 3,887 t full load
Loading submergence 232 tons/feet

Dimensions:
357.00 ft x 34.00 ft x 19.00 ft (normal load)
108.81 m x 10.36 m x 5.79 m

Armament:
8 - 4.50" / 114 mm guns (4 Main turrets x 2 guns)
15 - 1.56" / 40 mm AA guns
20 - 0.80" / 20 mm guns
Weight of broadside 398 lbs / 181 kg
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Main turrets 1.50" / 38 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 62,835 shp / 46,875 Kw = 32.45 kts
Range 8,700nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
233 - 303

Cost:
£2.124 million / $8.496 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 50 tons, 1.4 %
Armour: 80 tons, 2.2 %
Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Armament: 80 tons, 2.2 %, Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,690 tons, 46.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,271 tons, 35.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 453 tons, 12.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 80 tons, 2.2 %

Metacentric height 1.1

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is cramped
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.06
Shellfire needed to sink: 1,585 lbs / 719 Kg = 34.8 x 4.5 " / 114 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.4
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 62 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.86
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.24

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.550
Sharpness coefficient: 0.34
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 7.11
'Natural speed' for length: 18.89 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 70 %
Trim: 50
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 163.6 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 72.2 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 90 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.88
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 70 lbs / square foot or 343 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 3.17
(for 19.90 ft / 6.07 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 7.54 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00

(1) the RAN needs a long rang CLAAAs escort for my CVs as you know austalia , ops are in lage Oceans the Indian & the pacific so thats what the mackey is desing for as two the why the 5.25" or 5.24" gun in your case its a good DP it can take on ships and aircaft and all so if needed the the ship can go raiding she the best of both worlds long sea legs and rang to match like i side i came up with with the idear over a long time it all started with a othere class of CL with 6"guns much lager then the mackey the juneen and can it do 35.11kts hear i will put it up for you have a look at it.


Juneen, Australia Light Crusers laid down 1933

Displacement:
7,720 t light; 7,955 t standard; 8,925 t normal; 9,665 t full load
Loading submergence 443 tons/feet

Dimensions:
567.00 ft x 44.00 ft x 25.50 ft (normal load)
172.82 m x 13.41 m x 7.77 m

Armament:
6 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (3 Main turrets x 2 guns)
15 - 1.56" / 40 mm AA guns
20 - 0.80" / 20 mm guns
Weight of broadside 682 lbs / 309 kg
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Belt 5.00" / 127 mm, ends unarmoured
Belts cover 115 % of normal area
Main belt does not fully protect magazines and engineering spaces
Main turrets 2.00" / 51 mm, AA gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm, Light gun shields 2.00" / 51 mm
Armour deck 1.30" / 33 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 113,667 shp / 84,796 Kw = 35.11 kts
Range 13,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
459 - 596

Cost:
£3.807 million / $15.230 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 85 tons, 1.0 %
Armour: 1,194 tons, 13.4 %
Belts: 676 tons, 7.6 %, Armament: 145 tons, 1.6 %, Armour Deck: 373 tons, 4.2 %
Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 3,312 tons, 37.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,129 tons, 35.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,205 tons, 13.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 1.5

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable and able to fight her guns in the heaviest weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.02
Shellfire needed to sink: 6,025 lbs / 2,733 Kg = 55.8 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.9
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 100 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.86
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.93

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.491
Sharpness coefficient: 0.30
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 8.36
'Natural speed' for length: 23.81 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim: 61
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 127.7 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 119.7 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 105 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.92
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 88 lbs / square foot or 431 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 2.12
(for 23.90 ft / 7.28 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 9.10 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00

you could out bulidme yes but your a land power you will have to keep most of the steel for tanks and guns for the army you all so have to keep a eye on the other Eu players RA where as Austalia is bron form the sea like enland we have no land boders to look afthere so the army is the smaller to that of the the navy by the way this the 6" CL mark 3 desing


Juneen, Australia Light Crusers laid down 1933

Displacement:
7,763 t light; 8,000 t standard; 8,975 t normal; 9,720 t full load
Loading submergence 445 tons/feet

Dimensions:
570.22 ft x 44.00 ft x 25.50 ft (normal load)
173.80 m x 13.41 m x 7.77 m

Armament:
6 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (3 Main turrets x 2 guns)
15 - 1.56" / 40 mm AA guns
20 - 0.80" / 20 mm guns
Weight of broadside 682 lbs / 309 kg
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Belt 5.00" / 127 mm, ends unarmoured
Belts cover 118 % of normal area
Main belt does not fully protect magazines and engineering spaces
Main turrets 4.00" / 102 mm, AA gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm, Light gun shields 2.00" / 51 mm
Armour deck 1.30" / 33 mm, Conning tower 8.00" / 203 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 108,959 shp / 81,283 Kw = 34.75 kts
Range 13,000nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
461 - 599

Cost:
£3.724 million / $14.896 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 85 tons, 0.9 %
Armour: 1,406 tons, 15.7 %
Belts: 698 tons, 7.8 %, Armament: 259 tons, 2.9 %, Armour Deck: 375 tons, 4.2 %
Conning Tower: 74 tons, 0.8 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 3,175 tons, 35.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,098 tons, 34.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,212 tons, 13.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 1.5

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable and able to fight her guns in the heaviest weather

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.00
Shellfire needed to sink: 6,281 lbs / 2,849 Kg = 58.2 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.9
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 97 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.78
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.65

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.491
Sharpness coefficient: 0.30
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 8.39
'Natural speed' for length: 23.88 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 58 %
Trim: 59
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 122.2 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 110.0 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 106 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.94
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 89 lbs / square foot or 437 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.85
(for 21.90 ft / 6.68 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 7.08 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00

this last go at it if this dos nont work the i will just wait till the treaty comes to the end and build super CLs and CAs in 1937

Juneen, Australia Light Crusers laid down 1933

Displacement:
7,764 t light; 8,000 t standard; 8,972 t normal; 9,713 t full load
Loading submergence 600 tons/feet

Dimensions:
572.55 ft x 59.10 ft x 18.90 ft (normal load)
174.51 m x 18.01 m x 5.76 m

Armament:
6 - 6.00" / 152 mm guns (3 Main turrets x 2 guns)
15 - 1.56" / 40 mm AA guns
20 - 0.80" / 20 mm guns
Weight of broadside 682 lbs / 309 kg
8 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
Belt 3.50" / 89 mm, ends unarmoured
Belts cover 113 % of normal area
Main belt does not fully protect magazines and engineering spaces
Main turrets 6.00" / 152 mm, AA gun shields 1.00" / 25 mm, Light gun shields 2.00" / 51 mm
Armour deck 1.00" / 25 mm, Conning tower 6.00" / 152 mm
Torpedo bulkhead 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 91,475 shp / 68,240 Kw = 33.05 kts
Range 13,500nm at 12.00 kts

Complement:
460 - 599

Cost:
£3.387 million / $13.547 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 85 tons, 0.9 %
Armour: 1,622 tons, 18.1 %
Belts: 558 tons, 6.2 %, Armament: 359 tons, 4.0 %, Armour Deck: 389 tons, 4.3 %
Conning Tower: 56 tons, 0.6 %, Torpedo bulkhead: 260 tons, 2.9 %
Machinery: 2,665 tons, 29.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,392 tons, 37.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,208 tons, 13.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Metacentric height 2.5

Remarks:
Hull space for machinery, storage & compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation & workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Estimated overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Relative margin of stability: 1.04
Shellfire needed to sink: 4,285 lbs / 1,944 Kg = 39.7 x 6.0 " / 152 mm shells
(Approx weight of penetrating shell hits needed to sink ship excluding critical hits)
Torpedoes needed to sink: 0.9
(Approx number of typical torpedo hits needed to sink ship)
Relative steadiness as gun platform: 81 %
(Average = 50 %)
Relative rocking effect from firing to beam: 0.24
Relative quality as seaboat: 1.01

Hull form characteristics:
Block coefficient: 0.491
Sharpness coefficient: 0.33
Hull speed coefficient 'M': 8.43
'Natural speed' for length: 23.93 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim: 80
(Maximise stabilty/flotation = 0, Maximise steadiness/seakeeping = 100)

Estimated hull characteristics & strength:
Underwater volume absorbed by magazines and engineering spaces: 157.3 %
Relative accommodation and working space: 143.5 %
(Average = 100%)
Displacement factor: 118 %
(Displacement relative to loading factors)
Relative cross-sectional hull strength: 0.98
(Structure weight / hull surface area: 97 lbs / square foot or 472 Kg / square metre)
Relative longitudinal hull strength: 1.26
(for 19.71 ft / 6.01 m average freeboard, freeboard adjustment 4.89 ft)
Relative composite hull strength: 1.00