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[SIZE=3]1921[/SIZE]

1st Quarter

50 Factories

Ships being built

HMS Emerald (30% built)
2256t built - recieves 1362t
Building in Armstrong Withworth & Co. Ltd slip #6 (type 2)

HMS Enterprise (25%)
1892t built - recieves 1362t
Building in Armstrong Withworth & Co. Ltd slip #7 (type 2)

HMS Effingham (60%)
5850t built - recieves 1440t

HMS Frobisher (60%)
5850t built - recieves 1440t

HMS Raleigh (95%)
9260t built – recieves 490t - Finished this quarter

HMS Diomede (75%)
3488t built - recieves 1110t

HMS Despatch (70%)
3255t built - recieves 1020t

HMS Durban (90%)
4185t built - recieves 465t - Finished this quarter

HMS Repulse (95%)
Recieves 380t - Finishes refit and rearmoring

HMS Renown (90%)
Recieves 757t - Finishes refit and rearmoring

HMS Hermes
5245t built – recieves 873t

HMS Furious
Begins her conversion into a Carrier
Receives 1950t (of 14429)

HMS Invincible (G3 class)
Laid down in Armstrong Withworth & Co. Ltd slip #1 (type 4)
Recieves 2400t (of 37721)

Total tons of material needed: 15049t

16 factories assigned to produce material: 16000t
34 factories assigned to IP: 3,4 IP

3 new factories began:

Factory 51: 1,2 IP,: 8,8 left
Factory 52: 1,2 IP,: 8,8 left
Factory 53: 1 IP, 9 left

951t of material carried over for the next quarter.

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2nd Quarter

50 Factories

Ships being built

HMS Emerald
3618t built - recieves 1362t

HMS Enterprise
3254t built - recieves 1362t

HMS Effingham
7290t built - recieves 1440t

HMS Frobisher
7290t built - recieves 1440t

HMS Diomede
4598t built - recieves 52t - Finished this quarter

HMS Despatch
4275t built - recieves 375t - Finished this quarter

HMS Hermes
6118t built – recieves 873t

HMS Furious

1950t built - recieves 1950

HMS Invincible (G3 class)
2400t built - recieves 2400

HMS Inflexible (G3 class)
Laid down in Armstrong Withworth & Co. Ltd slip #2 (type 4)
Recieves 2400t (of 37721)

Total tons of material needed: 13654t

13 factories assigned to produce material: 13000t
37 factories assigned to IP: 3,7 IP

Factory 51: 1,3 IP,: 7,5 left
Factory 52: 1,2 IP,: 7,6 left
Factory 53: 1,2 IP, 7,8 left

300t of material carried over for the next quarter.

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3rd Quarter

50 Factories

Ships being built

HMS Emerald
4980t built - recieves 1362t

HMS Enterprise
4616t built - recieves 1362t

HMS Effingham
8730t built - recieves 1020t - Finished this quarter

HMS Frobisher
8730t built - recieves 1020t - Finished this quarter

HMS Hermes
6991t built – recieves 873t

HMS Furious
3900t built - recieves 1950

HMS Invincible (G3 class)
4800t built - recieves 2400

HMS Inflexible (G3 class)
2400t built - recieves 2400t

Total tons of material needed: 12387t

13 factories assigned to produce material: 13000t
37 factories assigned to IP: 3,7 IP

Factory 51: 1,3 IP,: 6,2 left
Factory 52: 1,2 IP,: 6,4 left
Factory 53: 1,2 IP, 6,6 left

913t of material carried over for the next quarter.

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4th Quarter

50 Factories

Ships being built

HMS Emerald
6342t built - recieves 1158t - Finished this quarter

HMS Enterprise
5978t built - recieves 1362t

HMS Hermes
7863t built – recieves 877t - Finished this quarter

HMS Furious
5850t built - recieves 1950

HMS Invincible (G3 class)
7200t built - recieves 2400

HMS Inflexible (G3 class)
4800t built - recieves 2400t

Total tons of material needed: 10147t

10 factories assigned to produce material: 10000t
40 factories assigned to IP: 4 IP

Factory 51: 1,4 IP,: 4,8 left
Factory 52: 1,3 IP,: 5,1 left
Factory 53: 1,3 IP, 5,3 left

766t of material carried over for the next quarter.
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Quoted

Originally posted by Gravina
HMS Repulse (95%)
Recieves 380t - Finishes refit and rearmoring

HMS Renown (90%)
Recieves 757t - Finishes refit and rearmoring

Hi there...

Does the rearmoring fit chapter K/III(V) of the Cleito Treaty?

Thanks,

HoOmAn

Did rearmourings-already-in-progress have to meet that standard, or were they exempt?

Quoted

Does the rearmoring fit chapter K/III(V) of the Cleito Treaty?

You refer to this chapter, don´t you?

No retained capital ships or aircraft carriers shall be reconstructed
except for the purpose of providing means of defence against air and
submarine attack, and subject to the following rules: The Contracting
Powers may, for that purpose, equip existing tonnage with bulge or
blister or anti-air attack deck protection, providing the increase of
displacement thus effected does not exceed 5,000 tons (5,080 metric
tons) displacement for each ship. No alterations in side armor, in
calibre, number or general type of mounting of main armament shall be
permitted.


The rearmoring of these ships does indeed include an increase in the main belt´s thickness. However I´m not sure these ships are affected by this chapter. The treaty specifies that no ship shall be reconstructed, but doesn´t mention ships that are already on a reconstruction...

It would be different If I had began the rearmoring after the treaty was signed, but these ships began their works in 1918-19.

I see and agree. Will we get detailed information on the reconstruction?

Main changes:

- Main belt thickness increased from 6in to 9in
- Upper belt thickness increased from 1,5in to 6in
- Deck armour increased from 3in to 3,5in
- 2 76mm AA guns replaced by 4 4in AA guns
- 3 new 40mm quadruple mounts added
- 5 new 20mm mounts added
- Miscellaneous weight and shells per main gun reduced in order to balance the ship.

As the engines are not upgraded the ships are 1,5 knots slower and the light displacement is increased from 29299 tons to 30215 tons.

HMS Repulse / HMS Renown, British Battlecruisers laid down 1915

Displacement:
30.215 t light; 31.573 t standard; 34.281 t normal; 36.309 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
787,70 ft / 787,70 ft x 90,00 ft x 29,18 ft (normal load)
240,09 m / 240,09 m x 27,43 m x 8,89 m

Armament:
6 - 15,00" / 381 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1.687,50lbs / 765,44kg shells, 1915 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
Main guns limited to end-on fire
17 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns (7 mounts), 31,99lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1915 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32,00lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1921 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
12 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns (3x4 guns), 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (5x2 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 10.823 lbs / 4.909 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 110
2 - 21,0" / 533,4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9,00" / 229 mm 620,00 ft / 188,98 m 12,00 ft / 3,66 m
Ends: 3,00" / 76 mm 160,00 ft / 48,77 m 12,00 ft / 3,66 m
7,70 ft / 2,35 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 6,00" / 152 mm 480,00 ft / 146,30 m 8,00 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 121 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,50" / 38 mm 480,00 ft / 146,30 m 26,00 ft / 7,92 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10,0" / 254 mm 9,00" / 229 mm 7,50" / 191 mm
2nd: 2,00" / 51 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3,50" / 89 mm, Conning tower: 10,00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 131.894 shp / 98.393 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 7.400nm at 15,00 kts (Bunkerage = 4.873 tons)

Complement:
1.259 - 1.637

Cost:
£4,209 million / $16,834 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1.353 tons, 3,9 %
Armour: 10.053 tons, 29,3 %
- Belts: 3.941 tons, 11,5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 693 tons, 2,0 %
- Armament: 1.979 tons, 5,8 %
- Armour Deck: 3.212 tons, 9,4 %
- Conning Tower: 228 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 4.996 tons, 14,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 13.713 tons, 40,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.066 tons, 11,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0,3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
38.858 lbs / 17.626 Kg = 23,0 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 4,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,09
Metacentric height 5,0 ft / 1,5 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 1,00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,44

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0,580
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28,07 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32,00 ft / 9,75 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 30,00 ft / 9,14 m
- Mid (50 %): 30,00 ft / 9,14 m
- Quarterdeck (25 %): 20,00 ft / 6,10 m (30,00 ft / 9,14 m before break)
- Stern: 20,00 ft / 6,10 m
- Average freeboard: 27,66 ft / 8,43 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 225,2 %
Waterplane Area: 49.610 Square feet or 4.609 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 177 lbs/sq ft or 865 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,42
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Quoted

Main guns limited to end-on fire

The recoil factor is exactly 1.00...need to shave 0.01 off somehow.



Perhaps that chapter of the Treaty was a response to R&R's latest shop time...

There they go again:

HMS Repulse / HMS Renown, British Battlecruisers laid down 1915

Displacement:
30.215 t light; 31.573 t standard; 34.281 t normal; 36.309 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
787,70 ft / 787,70 ft x 90,00 ft x 29,18 ft (normal load)
240,09 m / 240,09 m x 27,43 m x 8,89 m

Armament:
6 - 15,00" / 381 mm guns (3x2 guns), 1.687,50lbs / 765,44kg shells, 1915 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
17 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns (7 mounts), 31,99lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1915 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 4,00" / 102 mm guns in single mounts, 32,00lbs / 14,51kg shells, 1921 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
12 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm guns (3x4 guns), 1,95lbs / 0,88kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
10 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm guns (5x2 guns), 0,24lbs / 0,11kg shells, 1921 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 10.823 lbs / 4.909 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 110
2 - 21,0" / 533,4 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 9,00" / 229 mm 620,00 ft / 188,98 m 12,00 ft / 3,66 m
Ends: 3,00" / 76 mm 160,00 ft / 48,77 m 12,00 ft / 3,66 m
7,70 ft / 2,35 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 6,00" / 152 mm 480,00 ft / 146,30 m 8,00 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 121 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1,50" / 38 mm 480,00 ft / 146,30 m 26,00 ft / 7,92 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10,0" / 254 mm 9,00" / 229 mm 7,50" / 191 mm
2nd: 2,00" / 51 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3,50" / 89 mm, Conning tower: 10,00" / 254 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 131.894 shp / 98.393 Kw = 30,00 kts
Range 7.400nm at 15,00 kts (Bunkerage = 4.873 tons)

Complement:
1.259 - 1.637

Cost:
£4,209 million / $16,834 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 1.353 tons, 3,9 %
Armour: 10.053 tons, 29,3 %
- Belts: 3.941 tons, 11,5 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 693 tons, 2,0 %
- Armament: 1.979 tons, 5,8 %
- Armour Deck: 3.212 tons, 9,4 %
- Conning Tower: 228 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 4.996 tons, 14,6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 13.713 tons, 40,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4.066 tons, 11,9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0,3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
38.987 lbs / 17.684 Kg = 23,1 x 15,0 " / 381 mm shells or 4,2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,10
Metacentric height 5,1 ft / 1,6 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,99
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,44

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0,580
Length to Beam Ratio: 8,75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 28,07 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 49
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0,00 ft / 0,00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32,00 ft / 9,75 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 30,00 ft / 9,14 m
- Mid (50 %): 30,00 ft / 9,14 m
- Quarterdeck (25 %): 20,00 ft / 6,10 m (30,00 ft / 9,14 m before break)
- Stern: 20,00 ft / 6,10 m
- Average freeboard: 27,66 ft / 8,43 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 101,4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 225,2 %
Waterplane Area: 49.610 Square feet or 4.609 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 177 lbs/sq ft or 865 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0,96
- Longitudinal: 1,42
- Overall: 1,00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily