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Tuesday, October 21st 2014, 3:21pm

Chile, Q2/1945



Industrial Allocation
- 8/9 factories producing 8,000t materials.
- 2,502 tons from stockpile.
- 192 tons from scrapping
- 11,195 tons materials total.
- 8,335 tons used.
- 2,359 tons stored for Q3/45.
- 1/9 factories dedicated to infrastructure.

Infrastructure Development
1 factory dedicated to infrastructure; produces 0.1 IP, which goes to upgrading the Talcahuano S2 into an S2.5.

Naval Construction
ASMAR - Astillero de Talcahuano (Talcahuano):
D3.5: PA-04 Patria laid down July 1st, 1944. 2,200 tons added Q2/45 for a total of 8,800 / 20,000 tons. 11,200 / 20,000 tons remaining. Ship launched June 18th, 1945 and completed on December 1st, 1946.
S3.5: Dock landing ship Disembarkment of Pisagua laid down April 2nd, 1945. 5250 tons required. 1100 tons added Q2/1945 for a total of 1100 / 5250. 4150 / 5250 tons remaining until completion. Ship launched September 21st, 1945 and completed on June 8th, 1946.
D2.5: Reserve Hull 005 finishes scrapping. 179 / 179 tons recovered Q2/1945.
D2: Reserve Hull 006 finishes scrapping. 179 / 179 tons recovered Q2/1945.
S2: Upgrading to S2.5. 0.2 of 0.5 IP added.
S1: Idle.
D0: Idle.

Dockside:
- CP-05 O'Higgins laid down April 1st, 1944. 2,400 tons added Q2/45 for a total of 12000 / 14525 tons. 2525 / 14525 tons remaining. Ship launched on January 15th, 1945. Ship completed on February 6th, 1946.
- DE-32 Salinas laid down October 1st, 1944. 325 tons added Q2/45 for a total of 975 / 1,195 tons. 220 / 1195 tons remaining. Ship launched on February 3rd 1945. Ship completed on August 6th, 1945.
- Reserve Hull 007 and Reserve Hull 008 scrapping at dockside beginning April 1st, 1945. 0 / 179 tons removed from each. Scrapping to be completed in drydock July 1st through August 7th, 1945.
- Reserve Hull 009 and Reserve Hull 010 scrapping at dockside beginning June 1st, 1945. 0 / 179 tons removed from each. Scrapping to be completed in drydock August 15th through September 25th, 1945.

ASMAR - Astillero de Valparaíso (Valparaiso):
S1: Fleet submarine Marlin (SO-04) laid down January 1st, 1945. 550 tons added Q2/45 for a total of 1100 / 1650 tons. 500 tons remaining. Ship launched May 8th, 1945. Ship completed on November 20th, 1945.
S1: Fleet submarine Esturión (SO-05) laid down January 1st, 1945. 550 tons added Q2/45 for a total of 1100 / 1650 tons. 500 tons remaining. Ship launched May 8th, 1945. Ship completed on November 20th, 1945.
D1: Fleet submarine Bonito (SO-06) laid down January 1st, 1945. 550 tons added Q2/45 for a total of 1100 / 1650 tons. 500 tons remaining. Ship launched May 8th, 1945. Ship completed on November 20th, 1945.

Dockside:
- DE-31 Litton laid down July 1st, 1944. 220 tons added Q2/45 for a total of 1195 / 1195 tons. 220 / 1195 tons remaining. Ship launched on November 3rd 1944. Ship completed on May 6th, 1945.

ASENAV/Astillero de Alberto Daiber y Cia (Valdivia):
S0: Light minesweeper YDM-14 laid down April 1st, 1945. 190 tons added Q2/1945 for a total of 190 / 190. Completed and launched on April 30th, 1945.
S0: Submarine chaser Itata laid down April 1st, 1945. 250 tons added Q2/1945 for a total of 250 / 250. Ship launched May 20th, 1945. Ship will complete on August 8th, 1945.

Dockside:
- Submarine chaser Rapel laid down January 1st, 1945. 0 tons added Q2/1945 for a total of 250 / 250. Ship launched February 20th, 1945. Ship will complete on May 8th, 1945.

ASMAR - Astillerode Magallanes (Punta Arenas):
D0: Idle.

Dockside:
None

from factories:
- N/A

On Trials
- DE-29 Díaz completes six months of builders trials.
- DE-30 Troncoso continues six months of builders trials.
- DE-31 Litton begins six months of builders trials.
- DM-62 Almirante Williams completes six months of builders trials.
- DM-63 Almirante Riveros completes six months of builders trials.
- Minelayer 21 de Mayo completes six months of builders trials (in Argentina).
- Subchaser Rapel begins three months of builder's trials.

Scrapping
- Total tonnage in recycling until Q2/1945: (12x16) = 192 tons
- Total tonnage in recycling until Q3/45: (2x152) + (2x179) = 662 tons
- Total tonnage in recycling until Q4/45: (2x179) = 352 tons
- Total tonnage in recycling until Q1/46: (2x179) = 352 tons

Transactions
None

Other Notes
Technology development and investigatory committees are working on the following projects:
- "Zorro": Target date not set. Project is in study stages at Sisdef.

Order of Battle (Armada de Chile) June 30th, 1945
Note: W(X)+Y(Z) = completed (under repair/refit) + under construction (- scrapping vessel)

Primary Combatants:
Battlecruisers: 3(0)+0
Aircraft Carriers: 3(0)+1
Heavy Cruiser: 2(0)+1
Light Cruisers: 8(0)+0
Helicopter Cruisers: 1(0)+0
Large Destroyers: 8(0)+0 {3,000 tons std and up}
Medium Destroyers: 50(0)+0 {1,200-3,000 tons std}
Light Destroyers (Corvettes): 8(0)+0 {under 1,200 tons std}
Destroyer Escorts: 13(0)+1-4
Minelayer: 2(0)+0
Torpedo Boats: 25(0)+0
Submarines: 8(0)+3
Subchasers: 17(0)+1
Minesweepers: 26(0)+0
Arctic Patrol Vessel: 3(0)+0

Fleet Train:
Destroyer Tenders: 4(0)+0
Subchaser Tenders: 2(0)+0
Submarine Tenders: 1(0)+0
General Fleet Tenders: 4(0)+0
Fleet Oilers: 12(0)+0
Colliers: 1(0)+0

Auxiliaries:
Sail Training Sloop: 2(0)+0
Transports: 2(0)+0
Fleet Tugs: 4(0)+0
Light Harbour Tugs: 4(0)+0
Netlayers: 2(0)+0
Oceanic Research Ship: 1(0)+0
Pilot Boats: 6(0)+0
Training Yawls: 6(0)+0

Amphibious Forces:
Landing Ship Vehicle: 1(0)+0
Landing Ship Dock: 0(0)+1
Beach Discharge Lighter: 1(0)+0
Attack Transports: 4(0)+0
Landing Ship Infantry (Med): 2(0)+0
Landing Ship Tank: 2(0)+0
Landing Ship Mechanized: 2(0)+0
Landing Craft Tank: 0(0)+0
Landing Craft Mechanized: 11(0)+0
Landing Craft Assault: 54(0)+0

Emergency Use:
Patrol Boats: 4(0)+0
Naval Trawlers: 16(0)+0
Transports: 12(0)+0
Museum Ships: 1(0)+0

Foreign Orders and Exports (Totals):
Fleet Tugs: 6(0)+0 (to China)
Light Harbour Tugs: 20(0)+0 (to China)

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Tuesday, October 21st 2014, 4:14pm

As an aside to the above report, here is a breakdown of Chile's current destroyer fleet, which has been in a bit of a flux due to purchases and retirements - and the immediate re-use of ship names by new vessels. This is to help keep me straight...

Quoted

Large Destroyers: 8(0)+0 {3,000 tons std and up}
---- 8x Battle-class: Chilean large destroyers from the late 1930s and early 1940s, 8x130mm guns.

Medium Destroyers: 50(0)+0 {1,200-3,000 tons std}
---- 2x Almirante Lynch-class: Chilean-built destroyers with 8x130mm guns from the early 1930s.
---- 6x Capitan Thompson-class: Chilean-built destroyers with 4x130mm guns from the early 1930s.
---- 8x Capitan Eyzaguirre-class: Chilean-built (Atlantean-designed) destroyers with 8x130mm guns from the mid 1930s.
---- 2x Almirante Williams-class: Chilean-built destroyers with 4x130mm guns from the early 1940s.
---- 12x Temerario-class: Secondhand Nordish destroyers with 4x110mm guns.
---- 6x Voluntario-class: Secondhand German destroyers, refitted with 4x130mm.
---- 8x Aldea II-class: Secondhand US destroyers, not yet refitted (127mm guns).
---- 6x Cerro Fitz Roy-class: Secondhand German destroyer leaders, not yet refitted (150mm guns).

Light Destroyers (Corvettes): 8(0)+0 {under 1,200 tons std}
---- 8x Capitan Frey class: SAE-built light destroyers, refitted as ASW corvettes, 2x110mm guns.

Destroyer Escorts (Frigates): 13(0)+1
---- 7x Bolados-class (completed): US-designed, Chilean-built destroyer escorts from the early 1940s, 2x130mm guns.
---- 6x Aldea/Alphabet-class (remaining): Secondhand Atlantean destroyers from the late 1910s, 3x110mm guns, parked and in the process of scrapping. (Two finish scrapping Q2, four more begin scrapping, six more still intact but mothballed.)

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Wednesday, October 22nd 2014, 9:41am

Very handy.

That's a lot of destroyers! I thought I'd maxed out at 42 destroyers and 7 torpedo boats for Argentina. Chile's packing almost twice that! More than some European nations have too (the Dutch have 74 and have a world empire!)

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Wednesday, October 22nd 2014, 8:39pm

Part of the reason for the numbers is a healthy dose of overcompensation for past weaknesses.

When I started playing Chile, I had nine modern destroyers and a smattering of older vessels that needed to be scrapped. At the same time, Chile had more capital ships and cruisers than modern destroyers to escort them. I redressed the issue by building new destroyers and buying+refitting a bunch of old destroyers, simply so I had the resources to properly escort my surface groups. Peru's destroyer-and-sub-building program under Alvama and Rocky also forced me to push out some numbers to keep a healthy strategic advantage.

At this point, I'm replacing older ships and scrapping them rather than attempting to add more numbers. I bought the Aldea II class from the US in order to replace the 1917 Alphabets (and the Bolados-class DEs are similarly replacing Alphabets). The ex-Nordmark Temerario class is next up for replacement. Jury's still out whether I go for more DE-style ships like the Bolados, or if I replace them with more destroyers of the Almirante Williams-class. Regardless of which option I choose, I almost certainly won't be buying used vessels again, and I'll be replacing quantity of ships with quality. Before that, I have some light cruisers that need to be replaced or rebuilt; but by 1947, you should expect to see the composition of this current force start to change fairly dramatically.

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Wednesday, October 22nd 2014, 9:06pm

The German naval attaché generously forwards sales brochures for various Deschimag and Germaniawerft destroyer, frigate and corvette designs... for local construction of course. 8)

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Wednesday, October 22nd 2014, 9:45pm

I thought that was probably the case, rationalisation takes time.

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 8:01pm

Alot of destroyers? Psh...

Australia: 67 DD, 54 DE
Mexico: 135 DD

:p

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 8:07pm

I'd say you need a few more, DF. :D

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 8:41pm

Alot of destroyers? Psh...

Australia: 67 DD, 54 DE
Mexico: 135 DD

:p


As far as the scrap iron flotillas of the Royal Australian Navy is concerned, considering we haven't seen a sim report in two calendar years, it is rather easy to forget about them...

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 8:43pm

More likely Australia is being overshadowed by Mexico due to the vast amount of rusty rejects second hand destroyers the Mexicans are buying... so much so that they are afraid to bring out any new reports. :D

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 8:51pm

Hey, Japan might have a flight-deck casino, but just wait till I open the Destroyers of the World Theme Park!

I do need to get on those sim reports...

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 8:53pm

I do need to get on those sim reports...


That sir, is an understatement.

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 9:18pm

Alot of destroyers? Psh...

Australia: 67 DD, 54 DE
Mexico: 135 DD

:p

Yes, Mexico has more hulls; and if it was still 1918, I'm sure your fleet would be very impressive.

...But it's not 1918, and if you compare the fleets more closely, Chile's destroyer fleet has major advantages. It has about the same overall displacement despite having fewer hulls, and the average age of a Chilean destroyer is about fifteen years newer than their Mexican equivalents. All Chilean ships are equipped with dual-purpose guns - some of them automatic weapons, and most in enclosed gunhouses with ammo hoists. Every Chilean destroyer has dradis and electronic fire-control for anti-surface and anti-air. They have a better average cruising radius and are better sea-boats.

In short, the Chilean fleet is a fighting force, and the Mexican fleet is a museum piece.

(I'd venture to point out that your stated quantities don't match the numbers you have posted in your encyclopedia, by the way, making a detailed comparison somewhat difficult.)

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 9:46pm

Oh I agree completely, you have better ships no question about it. But your ships are for the open sea while mine are for the enclosed Gulf and Caribbean, and are perfectly suitable for dumping a kiloton of torpedoes at an incoming invasion fleet, and most importantly they serve as a way to store tonnage till such time as I need it ;)

And yes I will have the best destroyer museum in the world. :D

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 10:22pm

And the above serves as a perfect example of the vast difference between us, both in design theory and the roles of the respective navies. ;)

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 11:02pm

(I'd venture to point out that your stated quantities don't match the numbers you have posted in your encyclopedia, by the way, making a detailed comparison somewhat difficult.)


Well, looking around in the encyclopedias, I get:
Chile: 82 ships, 141,116 tons, average 1720 tons per ship, average age 15 years and 10 months.
Mexico: 96 ships (*), 126970 tons, average 1322 tons per ship, average age 25 years and 8 months.

(*) Not included in the Mexican total are the 6 destroyers converted to training ships, 11 scrapped destroyers and 23 sold destroyers. :P

One thing about the Cerro Fitz Roy, Brock... 10 tons assigned to the Depth Charge Racks... but nothing assigned no depth charges?? :huh:

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 11:24pm

Who the heck buys destroyers from Mexico?

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Thursday, November 6th 2014, 11:26pm

.. and while busy with all those numbers comparing Mexico and Chile, I forgot about this bit:

Quoted

All Chilean ships are equipped with dual-purpose guns - some of them automatic weapons, and most in enclosed gunhouses with ammo hoists.

... I guess it depends on your definition of "all", "some" and "most"...

Capitan Thompson (6), Capitan Eyzaguirre (8) Aldea (8) => DP no hoists => 27%
Capitan Frey (8), Cerro Fitz Roy (6) => BL + hoist => 17%
Almirante Williams (2) => ARF => 2%
Alphabet Destroyer C (8), Alphabet Destroyer D (8) => DP + hoist, no weapon armor => 20%

DP armed ships => 83%
ARF armed ships => 2%
Ships with enclosed gunhouses and ammo hoists => 54%

Quoted

Who the heck buys destroyers from Mexico?

Someone who is desperate?

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Friday, November 7th 2014, 1:37am

Nobody (save perhaps China) is that desperate. Mexico is where destroyers come to die.

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Friday, November 7th 2014, 1:38am

More on topic, I'm kind of inclined to think Chile might benefit from a few more light cruisers. It's currently just a 1:1 ratio with heavy units, leaving few to any free for any kind of independent work.