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Heres one of the designs I came up with for Alioth. Visually picture an Arrogant class carrier with an enclosed bow and more compact island structure. The main armament is devided up into 2 twin and 6 single mounts. Any improvements to be made? With SS rules how many planes would she carry?

Alioth, Atlantis Carrier laid down 1925

Displacement:
21,361 t light; 21,885 t standard; 22,912 t normal; 23,642 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
759.43 ft / 745.00 ft x 78.00 ft x 25.00 ft (normal load)
231.47 m / 227.08 m x 23.77 m x 7.62 m

Armament:
10 - 5.50" / 140 mm guns (8 mounts), 83.19lbs / 37.73kg shells, 1925 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 8 raised mounts
8 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (4x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1925 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
14 - 1.00" / 25.4 mm guns (7x2 guns), 0.50lbs / 0.23kg shells, 1925 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 947 lbs / 430 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 120

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.25" / 108 mm 565.00 ft / 172.21 m 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 117 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.25" / 32 mm 565.00 ft / 172.21 m 20.00 ft / 6.10 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.50" / 64 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -
2nd: 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -

- Armour deck: 2.75" / 70 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 117,035 shp / 87,308 Kw = 31.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 10.00 kts (Bunkerage = 1,848 tons)

Complement:
930 - 1,210

Cost:
£4.513 million / $18.053 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 118 tons, 0.5 %
Armour: 4,573 tons, 20.0 %
- Belts: 1,964 tons, 8.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 523 tons, 2.3 %
- Armament: 80 tons, 0.4 %
- Armour Deck: 2,005 tons, 8.8 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 3,800 tons, 16.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,870 tons, 30.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,551 tons, 6.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 6,000 tons, 26.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
18,874 lbs / 8,561 Kg = 226.9 x 5.5 " / 140 mm shells or 2.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.06
Metacentric height 3.8 ft / 1.2 m
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.07
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.38

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.552
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.55 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.29 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Forecastle (15 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Mid (85 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.00 ft / 4.88 m (24.00 ft / 7.32 m before break)
- Stern: 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
- Average freeboard: 22.80 ft / 6.95 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 116.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 193.8 %
Waterplane Area: 39,419 Square feet or 3,662 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 120 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 112 lbs/sq ft or 548 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.01
- Longitudinal: 1.05
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Well, using the square root of the Misc Weight it comes to 77. Using Length x Width / 750 it comes to...77. If the flight deck is armored, it would be closer to 50. That's based on the info I found on simming CV's over on the Warships 1 board.

It seems like I wasn't too far off my guesstimate of 72 aircraft, good to know. Being a 1925 design I suppose the number may be slightly reduced due to inefficient hangar layout, allthough Atlantis does have 3 carriers to gain experience with.

By the way welcome to our forums Canis!

Wes - the carriers look good. I particullary like carriers with cruiser armament like that...

CanisD - welcome aboard!

Thanks. Actually, I've been lurking for some time. Absolutely fascinated by the concept behind Wesworld.

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Originally posted by CanisD
Thanks. Actually, I've been lurking for some time. Absolutely fascinated by the concept behind Wesworld.

Thanks, but isn´t WesWorld just one out of many alternate histories? What do you think is special about WesWorld?

HoOmAn

The organizational detail for one thing and the fact that its more like a RPG/simulation then a cooperative fiction.

Wes, the design looks fine to me. You're obviously going for size over numbers, then?

I wonder if the USA would stick with its "more hulls are good" philosophy in this setting...

CanisD: If you've seen our heated discussions about Wesworld history, I think it's reasonable to say that this would not work well as "cooperative fiction"!

Well shoehorning the desired specifications into a 15,000 ton hull leaves me with a poor design, so seeing as the limit is 22,000 tons and I have 45,000 or less tons to work with for future designs that leaves me with 2x22,000 ton ships. Logically the next carrier would be a step above Alioth.