WesWorld

Maybe I should offer the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia similar terms for a carrier.

Heh, the Saudis couldn't pay for it with only a half-factory.

Well they could, it would just take a while to do it!

True, true...

Hm.

*Gets an idea and looks to see if he can implement it in Q2*

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Originally posted by perdedor99
IMO is being optimistic in the number of aircrafts. But it could be like me. The Urumi after his refit says it had 45 aircrafts but operationally only carry around 34-36 tops. Is only an idealized number

this ship is bigger than several in service CVs that carry 50+ aircraft, it is bassed on the OTL USS Ranger and USS Wasp both of which Carried 70+ on similar size hulls. I think 60 is a fair assesment of its capacity

Well at least one good thing has come out of this for me, I've discovered Alioths 2 aircraft above what she should be able to carry as per her misc weight allows, closer to 53 aircraft (2,809 tons for aircraft, 191 tons for other Misc weight).

Using the preposed new rule set at 75 tons per aircraft seems more realistic though, which places her at 40 aircraft and no spare misc weight.

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Originally posted by Tanthalas

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Originally posted by perdedor99
IMO is being optimistic in the number of aircrafts. But it could be like me. The Urumi after his refit says it had 45 aircrafts but operationally only carry around 34-36 tops. Is only an idealized number

this ship is bigger than several in service CVs that carry 50+ aircraft, it is bassed on the OTL USS Ranger and USS Wasp both of which Carried 70+ on similar size hulls. I think 60 is a fair assesment of its capacity

With reguards to Ranger/Wasp IIRC thats with deck parks, if we are talking hangar storage only that would drop closer to 50 mefinks.

Final Atempt (for today)

CVLX (MkV), Peru Light Carrier laid down 1937

Displacement:
16,000 t light; 16,447 t standard; 18,132 t normal; 19,480 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
721.00 ft / 707.00 ft x 88.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
219.76 m / 215.49 m x 26.82 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
6 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
6 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1937 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1937 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
20 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (10x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1937 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
4 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.92kg shells, 1937 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 873 lbs / 396 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.00" / 76 mm 430.00 ft / 131.06 m 16.00 ft / 4.88 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 94 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.50" / 38 mm 430.00 ft / 131.06 m 18.00 ft / 5.49 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 2.00" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 80,247 shp / 59,864 Kw = 30.00 kts
Range 10,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,033 tons

Complement:
780 - 1,015

Cost:
£5.253 million / $21.013 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 109 tons, 0.6 %
Armour: 3,049 tons, 16.8 %
- Belts: 888 tons, 4.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 430 tons, 2.4 %
- Armament: 76 tons, 0.4 %
- Armour Deck: 1,610 tons, 8.9 %
- Conning Tower: 45 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 2,224 tons, 12.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,113 tons, 33.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,132 tons, 11.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 4,505 tons, 24.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
29,990 lbs / 13,603 Kg = 568.8 x 4.7 " / 120 mm shells or 5.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 5.4 ft / 1.6 m
Roll period: 15.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.05
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.31

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has raised forecastle
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.510
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.03 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.85 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.23 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 38.00 ft / 11.58 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 38.00 ft / 11.58 m (18.00 ft / 5.49 m aft of break)
- Mid (50 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Quarterdeck (20 %): 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Stern: 18.00 ft / 5.49 m
- Average freeboard: 22.00 ft / 6.71 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 93.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 191.3 %
Waterplane Area: 43,514 Square feet or 4,043 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 141 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 105 lbs/sq ft or 513 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.00
- Longitudinal: 1.00
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

4505 tons Misc. Weight
3600 tons 60 plane airgroup (3600/60=60 & 707X88/750=82)
400 tons Reserved
200 tons Spare parts/aircrews
100 tons Flag Facilities
110 tons Crew Comfort (aditional heads/showers, Ships Library, Movie Theater, Aditional Coffee pots, improved AC and Heating plant)
90 tons Radar (20 tons primary air search, 20 tons secondary air search, 20 tons surface search, 30 tons FC)
3 tons Flag Stateroom
2 tons Capitans Stateroom

It's not really a light carrier anymore, IMHO. A light carrier is 12,000 tons and carries 40 planes; this is a small fleet carrier.

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
It's not really a light carrier anymore, IMHO. A light carrier is 12,000 tons and carries 40 planes; this is a small fleet carrier.

True, but well its also a matter of how the Navy in question views it. Peru would be using it as a Fleet Carrier, but Light Carrier is more in referance to its displacement.

Same offer. Built your ship at 8% construction cost. Total cost 17280 tons; Bharat will take 1280 tons. 160 tons on first construction quarter, 140 on the next eight. Expected completion date December 1939. The cost for Peru would be 1920 tons for nine quarters starting in quarter 4 1937.

Tant, if you need the ship built, i'm sure that your AEGIS allies could do it cheaper!

that's what friends are for, after all!!

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Originally posted by Commodore Green
Tant, if you need the ship built, i'm sure that your AEGIS allies could do it cheaper!

that's what friends are for, after all!!

Damn Iberia! How our poor dockworkers can feed their families if work is being taking away from them by greedy Iberians! just kidding.

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Originally posted by Commodore Green
Tant, if you need the ship built, i'm sure that your AEGIS allies could do it cheaper!

that's what friends are for, after all!!

im fairly sure it will be Q3 or Q4 before I can start on any project of this caliber, at which point im fairly sure ill be asking my AEGIS allies for extensive technical assistance on the project, and it will likley be built in an AEGIS ship yard.