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Monday, January 5th 2009, 9:48pm

World Production Figures 1937

Flicking through my copy of John Ellis' 'The World War II Databook' I found some interesting tables on raw material and sufficency tables. Thus here is how much everyone is producing as a percentage of the world total.

34.2% of the world's coal, 60.4% oil, 38% iron ore, 32.4% copper ore, 24.7% lead ore, 30.6% zinc ore, 0.2% nickel ore, 10.7% bauxite, 0.7% manganese ore, 8.8% tungsten, 0.2% chrome ore, 92.5% molybdenum, 81.9% sulphur, 5.6% pyrites, 29.8% phosphates, 8.1% potash, 10.6% magnesite, 0.1% rubber, 15.2% wheat, 3.7% rice, 55.2% maize, 18.3% sugar cane, 15.7% sugar beet, 23.8% meat.

9.3% of the world's coal, 10.6% oil, 14.3% iron ore, 4% copper ore, 3.3% lead ore, 3.8% zinc ore, 1.8% nickel ore, 6.2% bauxite, 40.5% manganese ore, ? % tungsten, 15.3% chrome ore, 5.8% pyrites, 24.5% phosphates, 7.3% potash, 27.2% magnesite, 26.5% wheat, 2.4% rice, 2.4% maize, 22.7% sugar beet, 15% meat.

Great Britain
18.6% of the world's coal, 4.4% iron ore, 1.6% lead ore, 1.3% zinc ore, 0.4% tungsten, 1.2% wheat, 3% sugar beet, 4.5% meat.

British Empire
5% of the world's coal, 2% oil, 5.9% iron ore, 24.8% copper ore (Canada supplies 10.2% and Northern Rhodesia 10.6%), 33.5% lead ore (Canada supplies 10.9% and Australia 14.7%), 39.1% tin ore (Malaya supplies 27.8%), 27.9% zinc ore (Canada 9.1% and Australia 11.1%), 90.6% nickel ore (Canada supplies 89.5%), 10% bauxite (British Guiana supplies 9.1%), 9% manganese ore, 22.4% tungsten (15.3% from Burma), 29% chrome ore (22.9% from South Rhodesia), 0.2% molybdenum, 9.2% pyrites, 8.7% phosphates, 0.6% potash, 6% magnesite (Australia 3.1%), 52.2% rubber (Malaya supplies 41.2%), 10.5% wheat (Canada 5.7%), 10% rice, 3.5% maize, 13.1% sugar cane (Australia 4.5%), 8.8% meat (Canada 2.5% and Australia 3.2%.

3.4% of the world's coal, 11.7% iron ore, 0.3% lead ore, 0.1% manganese ore, 1.4% pyrites, 0.7% phosphates, 15.5% potash, 5.6% wheat, 0.4% maize, 8.27% sugar beet, 4.8% meat.

French Empire
0.2% of the world's coal, 1.8% iron ore, 2% lead ore, 1.1% tin ore, 0.9% zinc ore, 4.4% nickel ore, 0.2% bauxite, 0.3% manganese ore, 1.8% tungsten, 4.1% chrome ore, 0.6% molybdenum, 8.4% pyrites, 28.3% phosphates, 6.7% rubber, 1.6% wheat, 7.8% rice, 1.1% maize, 1.4% sugar cane, 0.8% meat.

1.1% of the world's coal, 0.2% wheat, 2% sugar beet, 1.3% meat.

Dutch East Indies & Dutch Guiana
0.1% of the world's coal, 2.7% oil, 17.5% tin ore 14.8% bauxite, 0.2% manganese ore, 0.4% sulphur, 0.9% phosphates, 33% rubber, 6.3% rice, 1.7% maize, 8.1% sugar cane.

0.1% of the world's coal, 0.5% iron ore, 2% lead ore, 4.3% zinc ore, 9.6% bauxite, 0.4% manganese ore, 8.6% pyrites, 0.2% magnesite, 4.8% wheat, 0.8% rice, 2.9% maize, 3.7% sugar beet, 2.1% meat.

0.1% of the world's coal, 10% iron ore, 1.2% copper ore, 0.5% lead ore, 2.4% zinc ore, 0.8% nickel ore, 0.1% manganese ore, 0.4% tungsten, 11.5% pyrites, 0.2% magnesite, 0.5% wheat, 2.7% sugar beet, 1% meat.

1.1% of the world's coal, 0.2% iron ore, 0.2% lead ore, 5.7% tin ore, 0.2% zinc ore, 0.2% nickel ore, 0.8% manganese ore, 0.6% tungsten, 0.2% molybdenum, 0.7% sulphur.

9.0% manganese ore, 12.8 chrome ore.

17.9% manganese ore, 43.5% rice, 6.6% wheat, 18.7% sugar cane

I've data on Hungary, Rumania, Turkey, Iraq and Iran combined and Latin America. I've left out Germany and Japan since they feature totals for other areas they do not control in WW. Nordmark's figure is Norway plus Sweden's totals.

To work out the tonnages here are the world totals in million metric tons.
Coal 1,247.4
Oil 272
Iron Ore 98
Copper Ore 2.3
Lead Ore 1.7
Tin Ore 0.2
Zinc Ore 1.9
Nickel Ore 1.1
Bauxite 4
Manganese Ore 3
Tungsten Ore 0.2
Chrome Ore 0.6
Molybdenum 0.016
Sulphur 3.4
Pyrites 10.6
Phosphates 14.5
Potash 3.2
Magnesite 1.8
Rubber 0.92
Wheat 167
Rice 93.9
Maize 117.4
Cane 17.3
Beet 9.7
Meat 30


Tuesday, January 6th 2009, 12:01am

I don't know that historical Germany is controlling, in 1937, much that WW Germany doesn't, the incorporation of the Sudetenland and Czechoslovakia didn't happen until 1938/39, and WW Germany includes Austria.


Tuesday, January 6th 2009, 8:39pm

Oddly enough the table says it incorporates Austria and Czechoslovakia under 'Greater Germany' and I guess this is a way to compare the resources of Germany and the allies in the war rather than an historically correct figure.

Anyway here we go;
15.3% of the world's coal, 0.2% oil, 4.1% iron ore, 1.3% copper ore,5.4% lead ore, 0.1% tin ore, 9.4% zinc ore, 2.3% bauxite, 8.4% manganese ore, 4.2% pyrites, 61.5% potash, 27.9% magnesite, 4.7% wheat, 0.6% maize, 24.7% sugar beet, 13.6% meat.

Japan's figure includes Korea, Kwantung, Manchuko and the Mandates.


Tuesday, January 6th 2009, 9:38pm

If you have any numbers for Finland add them in for Nordmark


Tuesday, January 6th 2009, 10:22pm

Do I assume then, that the Iberian Federation produced the balace???

but seriously, are there any figures for Denmark or Spain/Portuugal/Central America???

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Commodore Green" (Jan 6th 2009, 10:23pm)


Wednesday, January 7th 2009, 3:18am

Well there certainly won't be any figures for Atlantis! I suppose that would be an advantage :D


Wednesday, January 7th 2009, 3:47am


Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Well there certainly won't be any figures for Atlantis! I suppose that would be an advantage :D

Atlantis: where money really DOES grow on trees! :D


Wednesday, January 7th 2009, 4:06am

Now I just have to make sure no one gets their hands on the seeds for these money trees and plants their own ;)

I am wondering however, how could we determine the percentage of materials produced for a fictional nation? Subtract from existing numbers or simply fabricate new numbers to tack on to historical numbers?


Wednesday, January 7th 2009, 4:14am

I'd suggest that Atlantis could choose three or four natural resources to be rich in, and some to be "poor" in.

For instance, Bulgaria, unlike its neighbors to the north, has no oil, but it leads the Balkans in steel production. Chile, in the 21st century, is a leader in copper mining, but also doesn't have oil. Saudi Arabia has oil, but no steel. Britain would probably lead in manufactured goods and textiles.

I bet I could figure out a way to completely randomize things...


Wednesday, January 7th 2009, 4:47am

Atlantean economy... for one thing, I'd work on improving this little bit: ;)

arable land: 0%
permanent crops: 0%
other: 0%
Irrigated land:
NA sq km

Mauretania has a fair amount of iron ore exports in real life and some fair offshore oil; Western Sahara has phosphates; and of course Musaeus has oil, bauxite and aluminum, and steel.


Wednesday, January 7th 2009, 4:48am

I would guess that Nickel, Platinum, Orichalcum (high grade copper) and Tin would be the top 4 with Atlantis getting its Oil from Venezuela.


Wednesday, January 7th 2009, 10:08am

I'd think that Iceland's natural resources would be a good indicator for Atlantis, as both are on the Mid-Atlantis ridge, plus a few bits ad pieces to allow for the size difference...


Wednesday, January 7th 2009, 10:33am


Originally posted by Commodore Green
I'd think that Iceland's natural resources would be a good indicator for Atlantis, as both are on the Mid-Atlantis ridge, plus a few bits ad pieces to allow for the size difference...


25.8% of the world's Fire
0.2% of the world's Ice


Wednesday, January 7th 2009, 2:20pm



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Thursday, January 8th 2009, 6:30pm

So does anyone have economic data on Iran/Persia in this time period?

Kaiser Kirk

Lightbringer and former European Imperialist

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Saturday, January 10th 2009, 8:21am

Interesting info Hood. I've done some digging on my own in the past, but not found nice summaries like these. I am a little wary of

Generally I'm in favoring of at least considering historic resource levels. Admittedly, there have been past alteratons to nations resources- SAE produces Iron in WW, and there are alternative histories- like it would have been difficult for the Brits to introduce rubber to Sri Lanka :) Lastly, there are alternatives for most.

But if your likely source of something important lies somewhere else, it's nice to try to plan on obtaining it.