Romanian Request

Master

Sunday, July 27th 2008, 6:21am

Romania currently has two tank regiments armed with FT-17 and AT-17 attached to two of its infantry divisions.

With these tanks becoming quite obsolete, the Romanian government is looking to replace them with:

120 new tanks (60 per regiment) with the following attributes:

20 to 60 mm main gun,
2 MG of 7.92mm

Armor from 50mm to 80mm

Speed of up to 20mph.

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Kaiser Kirk

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Sunday, July 27th 2008, 6:37am

Well the Dutch-Filipino collaboration the Lt-33 is still out there, but lacks the armor. Can be armed with 37,45, or 47mm ATGs. Produced in both Czechoslovakia and the place of explosions.

Lt-33 specifications

4 crew members
Length: 4.89 meters
Width: 2.81 meters
Height: 2.3 meters
Weight: 10.2 tonnes
Armour: 25mm
Main armament: 45mm
Secondary: 2x 7.7mm MGs
Engine: 110hp
Speed: 32 km/h
Range: 182 km

The Dutch heavy tank is also available, the Skoda-Royal Armory Lt-35.

24.44 tonnes
6.35m long, 2.6m wide, 2.62m high
2 hull positions (Driver, MG/Radio), 3 turret positions
1x 45L48, 3x 13.2mm HMG (hull/coax/commander)

234 diesel engine
Max spd :17mph
Range : 180miles
0.42m ground clearance, 8.5 psi

Armor front/side/rear/top/bottom
Turret: 55 / 40 / 35 / 30 / na
Hull : 50 / 35-40 / 30-35 / 30 / 15

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thesmilingassassin

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Sunday, July 27th 2008, 6:44am

Atlantis can offer for imediate transfer the following tank designs.

AT-33 "Sentinel II"
AT-27 "Sentinel"
AT-32 "Rapier"

The Sentinel II fits the requirements most out of all three designs. However limited numbers of AT-35 "Sabres" can be offered, at least initially, a design which meets and exceeds most of the requirements issued.

AT-34's can also be offered in limited numbers, though they do not meet the armour or MG requirments they do exceed the speed requirements and meet the minimum armament requirement.

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Hrolf Hakonson

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Sunday, July 27th 2008, 12:19pm

Germany can offer the Panzer IIIC, fitted with the 50mm L60 gun and 3 7.92mm MGs (2 coaxial, 1 in the hull front). Weight is just under 20 tons, and armor is close to that requested (turret front is 50mm, hull front is 40mm).\

[Got to wonder about that Dutch tank, the 13.2mm HMG, while an excellent weapon vs trucks and light armor, isn't at it's best versus infantry due to the low rate of fire.]

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Red Admiral

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Sunday, July 27th 2008, 6:11pm

Romania, I seem to remember that they ordered new tanks from Italy a while back. The export tank design that put a turreted 47mm on top of the semovente hull.

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Commodore Green

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Sunday, July 27th 2008, 6:35pm

RE: Romanian Request

Quoted

Originally posted by TheCanadian
20 to 60 mm main gun,
2 MG of 7.92mm
Armor from 50mm to 80mm
Speed of up to 20mph.

Denmark can offer the "Bille"

Currently mounting a 37mm, but developements are ongoing to upgun to 57mm.

A 75mm short barrrel howitzer version is also in developement for a foreign buyer.

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TheCanadian

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Sunday, July 27th 2008, 6:53pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Red Admiral
Romania, I seem to remember that they ordered new tanks from Italy a while back. The export tank design that put a turreted 47mm on top of the semovente hull.

Those tanks are going to serve in the Armoured Division.

These tanks Romania wants to serve with the infantry. Eventually, Romania would like four regiments of infantry support tanks, although 2 will suffice for now.

This is a product of the review on the army (which is not yet out), and basically the government is trying to satisfy the infantry school, who want the tanks with them, and the cavalry school who want the tanks in separate divisions.

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Red Admiral

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Sunday, July 27th 2008, 7:22pm

Quoted

Those tanks are going to serve in the Armoured Division.

These tanks Romania wants to serve with the infantry.

The obvious answer is to buy more of the same as they meet the specs. Its probably possible to shoehorn in a 75mm gun in the hull as well to give better support.

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thesmilingassassin

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Sunday, July 27th 2008, 8:28pm

Seeing as Romania is reviewing future alliances it should reveiw what the nations in those potential alliances are using and pick a similar type in an effort to standardize.

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Brockpaine

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Sunday, July 27th 2008, 8:43pm

You know, every time I see that Danish tank, I think of the British light tanks like the FV101 Scorpions...

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TheCanadian

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Tuesday, August 19th 2008, 5:43pm

After much deliberation, the Romanian General Staff has announced the decision to purchase 120 AT-33s.

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thesmilingassassin

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Tuesday, August 19th 2008, 6:16pm

Looks like the AT-33 production line just got a new lease on life! Atlantis is pleased that Romania picked their design.

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Red Admiral

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Tuesday, August 19th 2008, 6:23pm

Boo. Hiss. Bribery...

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Vukovlad

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Tuesday, August 19th 2008, 6:25pm

Logical following the 180 turn in foreign policy

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thesmilingassassin

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Tuesday, August 19th 2008, 6:26pm

Hmm, Bribery?

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Brockpaine

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Tuesday, August 19th 2008, 6:39pm

180 turn in policy? I don't see it. Ever since I've started playing Bulgaria, there've been fair to good relations with Romania. It's the sane voice of the PRJ, after all.

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TheCanadian

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Tuesday, August 19th 2008, 6:40pm

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Originally posted by Vukovlad
Logical following the 180 turn in foreign policy

Romania doesn't quite follow these accusations?

We still think we are quite neutral, and have made purchases from all major European alliances.

In other words, in regards to future foreign policy, Romania is quite happily sitting on the fence.

Although one good push could send her into either AEGIS or FAR/Turkey/Bulgaria.

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Vukovlad

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Tuesday, August 19th 2008, 6:45pm

Should have put an OOC in front of that.

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TheCanadian

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Tuesday, August 19th 2008, 7:06pm

Quoted

Originally posted by Brockpaine
180 turn in policy? I don't see it. Ever since I've started playing Bulgaria, there've been fair to good relations with Romania. It's the sane voice of the PRJ, after all.

Poland is almost offended at that.

We think we are quite sane now, after our recent bout of insanity. Why, we've even managed to get let out of the padded room, although we still aren't allowed sharp objects.