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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 3:29am

Filipino Fast Transport/ML

A high speed transport/minelayer. Speedy but with range, should be useful in Guadalcanal-esque situations.

Credit goes to Rocky for the design and the drawing - this is something he had worked on but dropped in favor of a smaller APD. I modified the drawing and the SS to Filipino standards.

The torpedoes are just there to illustrate the deck space occupied by the landing craft and minehandling gear/cargo area. There are no actual torpedoes involved.
I should be able to haul around 300 troops for short jaunts.




Unnamed, Filipino Fast Transport/ML laid down 1934

Displacement:
2,753 t light; 2,853 t standard; 3,239 t normal; 3,548 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
471.91 ft / 459.32 ft x 42.65 ft x 13.78 ft (normal load)
143.84 m / 140.00 m x 13.00 m x 4.20 m

Armament:
6 - 4.53" / 115 mm guns (3x2 guns), 48.50lbs / 22.00kg shells, 1934 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 1.38" / 35.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 1.32lbs / 0.60kg shells, 1934 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
8 - 0.54" / 13.7 mm guns (2x4 guns), 0.11lbs / 0.05kg shells, 1934 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 308 lbs / 140 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 200
10 - 24.0" / 610 mm above water torpedoes

Misc. Weight:
-100 t: 2 sets davits
-40 t: 2 large cranes (10 t capacity each)
-40 t: minelaying equipment (rails, cranes)
-200 t: 2 LCI and 100 t cargo or 200 t of cargo or 200 mines

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Ends: Unarmoured
Upper: 1.18" / 30 mm 65.62 ft / 20.00 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.59" / 15 mm -
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm - -
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 50,000 shp / 37,300 Kw = 32.93 kts
Range 10,000nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 695 tons

Complement:
214 - 279

Cost:
£1.577 million / $6.308 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 37 tons, 1.1 %
Armour: 54 tons, 1.7 %
- Belts: 37 tons, 1.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 16 tons, 0.5 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 1,385 tons, 42.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 897 tons, 27.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 487 tons, 15.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 380 tons, 11.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,072 lbs / 486 Kg = 23.1 x 4.5 " / 115 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 1.9 ft / 0.6 m
Roll period: 13.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.29
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.09

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
Block coefficient: 0.420
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.77 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.43 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.82 ft / 6.65 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Mid (46 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m (11.81 ft / 3.60 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Stern: 11.81 ft / 3.60 m
- Average freeboard: 15.60 ft / 4.76 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 160.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 87.8 %
Waterplane Area: 12,213 Square feet or 1,135 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 90 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 43 lbs/sq ft or 209 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.57
- Longitudinal: 1.00
- Overall: 0.60
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is cramped
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 5:19am

Nice!

Mexico looks with intense interest...

Kaiser Kirk

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 6:45am

there's an error in the range, it says 10,000 and it should have no more than 10.
...
or at least the Dutch think so : )

You might want to add a smidge to the stem to eliminate the "wet forward". Also 200 shells may be a little low depending on the exact environment you expect.

Other than that, looks good

Edit : Should I point out that at 6x115mm & 32knts, she's not unlimited, and she's too big for Destroyer A. So if you stay in the treaty, she's a light cruiser?

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Kaiser Kirk" (Apr 2nd 2007, 7:09am)


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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 8:43am

Quoted

Originally posted by Kaiser Kirk
there's an error in the range, it says 10,000 and it should have no more than 10.
...
or at least the Dutch think so : )

You might want to add a smidge to the stem to eliminate the "wet forward". Also 200 shells may be a little low depending on the exact environment you expect.

Other than that, looks good

Edit : Should I point out that at 6x115mm & 32knts, she's not unlimited, and she's too big for Destroyer A. So if you stay in the treaty, she's a light cruiser?


I'll be dropping out of the Treaty as soon as I get news up. :)

Hopefully these things won't have to do much gunnery combat. Point taken re: the stem though.

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 9:46am

Quoted

Originally posted by Alikchi
I'll be dropping out of the Treaty as soon as I get news up. :)


:(

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 11:30am

Quoted

Originally posted by HoOmAn

Quoted

Originally posted by Alikchi
I'll be dropping out of the Treaty as soon as I get news up. :)


:(


Wouldn't make a lot of sense for the last Cleito-member in SATSUMA to stay when the other members have quit the Treaty.

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 12:21pm

Well, the Fillipinos are the biggest KABOOM-threat to peace in WesWorld.... Guess, the SAE will leave then too - just to be prepared! ;)

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 1:54pm

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Originally posted by Hrolf Hakonson

Quoted

Originally posted by HoOmAn

Quoted

Originally posted by Alikchi
I'll be dropping out of the Treaty as soon as I get news up. :)


:(


Wouldn't make a lot of sense for the last Cleito-member in SATSUMA to stay when the other members have quit the Treaty.


True enough, I was acctually surprised it didn't happen earlier. Somehow I think the Netherlands will be a little less inclined to stick with the treaty now.

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 5:48pm

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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
True enough, I was acctually surprised it didn't happen earlier. Somehow I think the Netherlands will be a little less inclined to stick with the treaty now.


The withdrawal does make it rather more difficult to stay in the treaty. Politically it weakens the moderates of Land's govt. and rather boosts the more paranoid types.

As for why the Phillipines would stay in? Simple- to present themselves as the trustworthy part of SATSUMA :)

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 5:50pm

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As for why the Phillipines would stay in? Simple- to present themselves as the trustworthy part of SATSUMA smile


Heh, but only trustworthy from a distance, as they tend to explode with no warning.

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 5:53pm

I thought you could *trust* them to explode...

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 6:07pm

Frustratingly, no. Sometimes they explode, sometimes they never do.

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 6:14pm

Anyhow,

I figured there was a shot the Filipinos would stay in. Unlike India who was bumping into caps, and Japan who has the muscle to exploit freedom, the Filipinos are short in most categories except type A subs, which they've busted, so they don't gain much by leaving right now. So much for that conclusion !

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 7:02pm

"Its just gone eight o'clock and its time for the penguin on top of your television set to explode"

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 9:24pm

That's a thought, we haven't seen much of the penguin harvesting operations for a while. Did they fight back? Will we be seeing the Antarctic Battleship to subdue the penguins?

I'll go take my medication now...

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 11:26pm

They explode when they are least needed but most dramatically convenient.

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Monday, April 2nd 2007, 11:39pm

Those penguins always remind me of that Batman movie with The Riddler how destroyed the Bat Cave with his Penguins or Ducks or what kind of bird they were.....

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Tuesday, April 3rd 2007, 1:57am

Back to the original topic, whats the upper belt for?

Will the design be open for export?

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Wednesday, April 4th 2007, 4:29am

Quoted

Originally posted by RLBH
That's a thought, we haven't seen much of the penguin harvesting operations for a while. Did they fight back? Will we be seeing the Antarctic Battleship to subdue the penguins?

I'll go take my medication now...


"And nothing was heard from the Antarctic Battleship ever again."

Scientific stuff was kind of called off after the plague broke out (the scientists and doctors aboard Pacifica were suddenly needed). But perhaps a revival is in order.

The Philippines, in principle, could have stayed in the treaty, but it has always been Swamphen's intention to drop out ASAP. I believe the quote is "whoever leaves the treaty first, the Philippines will be second". So it's less based on immediate need than doctrine.

Besides, I might not have a good excuse to leave later, whereas leaving now makes me part of the SATSUMA pattern. :)

Upper belt is to simulate some armoring of the cargo area, which could contain fuel drums or mines, for example. (Side note - the little brown boxes on the drawing represent crates).

And yes, the design will be open to export, but not before I lay down a couple for myself - Filipino slips are awfully busy.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Alikchi" (Apr 4th 2007, 4:29am)