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Sunday, February 18th 2007, 5:57pm

Força Aérea Brasileira 1/1/1934

Combat elements only:

I FAe (Bolivia-Peru)
1º/5º GDA - F-3
2º/5º GDA - F-4
3º/8º GAvCA - F-4
5º/8º GAvCA - B-5
7º/8º GAv - R-2, A-16
2º/10º GAv - R-2
1º/11º GAv - R-2, R-22

II FAe (SAE-Paraguay)
1º/7º GDA - F-3
2º/7º GDA - MS.130
3º/7º GDA - MS.130, NiD.72C.1
4º/7º GAvCA - B-5
5º/7º GAvCA - F-4
6º/7º GAvCA - F-4
1º/8º GAv - R-2
2º/8º GAv - R-2

III FAe (Northern Border)
1º/3º GDA - F-14
2º/3º GDA - F-14
3º/3º GAv - R-22
4º/3º GAvCA - F-4
1º/4º GAv - R-2
1º/6º GAv - A-16
2º/6º GAv - A-16

IV FAe (Coast)
1º/10º GDA - F-19
2º/10º GDA - F-19, F-18
1º/14º GAv - R-22, A-16
1º/16º GAvCA - F-4
1º/2º GAv - P-17
2º/2º GAv - P-6
1º/9º GAv - P-21
1º/15º GAv - P-21

Aircraft designations reminder...
(I went through the historical FAB aircraft to arrange for B.P.C.-acquired types. Older types named after newer types due to a bureaucratic bungle.)
P-1 - Embraer EMB-29 (Hall PH)
R-2 - Embraer EMB-31 (Renaud R.31)
F-3 - FMA I-100 Baron / Embraer EMB-33
F-4 - Embraer EMB-32 (Renaud R.32)
B-5 - Martin B-12
P-6 - Consolidated P2Y
B-7 - Embraer EMB-34 (LACAB GR.8)
C-8 - Junkers Ju 52/3m
.....PC-8 - Junkers Ju 52/3m W
U-9 - Focke-Wulf Fw 58 Weihe
U-10 - BFW Bf 108B Taifun
RF-11 - Macchi M.167
PR-12 - Grumman G-15 Duck
F-13 - Grumman G-23
F-14 - Boeing P-12
T-15 - Curtiss JN
A-16 - Breguet Bre.19
P-17 - Liore-et-Oliver LeO.253
F-18 - Nieuport-Delage NiD.72C.1
F-19 - Morane Saulnier M.S.130
T-20 - Consolidated NY-2
P-21 - Savoia-Marchetti S-55
R-22 - Potez 25
T-23 - Avro 504
.....T-23B - FMA T-514
U-24 - Caudron C.59
T-25 - FMA I.Ae 2
T-26 - FMA I.Ae 3
U-27 - FMA I.Ae 1
F-28 - Bleriot SPAD S.34-1 (ex-FANB)
F-29 - Curtiss Hawk II (ex-FANB)
A-30 - Curtiss CW-14 (ex-FANB)
U-31 - Morane Saulnier M.S. 139 (ex-FANB)
A-32 - Sienar V-19 (Brewster SBA)
A-33 - EMBRAER EMB-35 (Bellanca 29-90)
U-34 - Heinkel He 59
R-35 - Heinkel He 70K
C-36 - Douglas DC-3
C-37 - Lockheed Electra
U-38 - Beechcraft Staggerwing
F-39 - EMBRAER EMB-36 (Seversky P-35)
PA-40 - Sienar V-25 (Hall XPTBH)
A-41 - FMA I.Ae 5S
F-42 - Boulton Paul Defiant
PU-43 - EMBRAER EMB-28 (Seversky SEV-3XP)
R-44 - Martin B-16
U-45 - TNCA C-5 Schneider

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "Swamphen" (Mar 21st 2007, 4:06pm)


Friday, February 23rd 2007, 4:46pm


Brazilian military aircraft insignia consist of:

* a yellow and green five-point "rotating star" on each side of the fuselage with a blue disc, bordered in white, on the centre of the star (2 positions).

* roundels of green/yellow/blue on the upper and lower surfaces of each wing (4 positions).

* the Imperial flag on each side of the vertical stabiliser (2 positions).

* on some aircraft, the rudder surfaces are painted in green/blue/green stripes in place of the Imperial flag.

FMA F-3 Barron (I-100) demonstrating standard insignia.

Curtiss A-30 (CW-14) with fuselage marking over FANB roundel.

Curtiss F-29 (Hawk II), 'hasty repaint' retaining FANB rudder stripes and painted-out roundels.


Friday, February 23rd 2007, 6:53pm

Eh, Swampy, I just realized something. The flag you're using? It's the Republic of Brazil's flag. This is the Imperio do Brasil's flag and this is its coat of arms.

EDIT: More importantly for this thread, this is a page with all of Brazil's roundels. They're all for Republic aircraft, but the Empire didn't last long enough OTL to have roundels.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Fyrwulf" (Feb 23rd 2007, 6:56pm)


Saturday, February 24th 2007, 12:54am


Thanks for pointing that out, I'll change the flag.


Friday, March 2nd 2007, 1:37am

FAB serial number blocks

2740-2770: Breguet Bre.19
2771-2778: Nieuport-Delage NiD.72C.1
2779-2800: Savoia-Marchetti S-55
2801-2834: Potez 25
2835-2859: Morane Saulnier M.S.130
2860-2868: Liore-et-Oliver LeO.253
2869-2878: Caudron C.59
2879-2909: Boeing P-12
2910-2936: Embraer EMB-29 (Hall PH)
2937-3033: Embraer EMB-31 (Renaud R.31)
3034-3082: FMA I-100
3083-3101: Consolidated P2Y
3102-3126: Martin B-12
3127-3175: FMA I-100B
3176-3248: Embraer EMB-32 (Renaud R.32)
3249-3284: cancelled (EMB-32)
3285-3345: Embraer EMB-34 (LACAB GR.8)
3346-3398: FMA I-100B
3399-3418: Junkers Ju 52/3m
3419-3435: Junkers Ju 52/3m W
3436-3460: Focke-Wulf Fw 58
3461-3501: BFW Bf 108B
3502-3514: Macchi M.167
3515 : Bleriot SPAD S.34-1
3516 : Morane Saulnier M.S.139
3517 : Junkers Ju 52/3m
3518-3519: Breguet Bre.19
3520-3522: Curtiss CW-14
3523 : Curtiss Hawk II
3524-3548: Sienar V-19 (Brewster SBA)
3549-3597: Grumman G-23
3598-3624: EMBRAER EMB-35 (Bellanca 29-90)
3625-3649: Grumman G-15
3650-3686: Junkers Ju 52/3m
3687-3711: Focke-Wulf Fw 58
3712-3748: Heinkel He 59
3749-3757: Heinkel He 70K
3758-3782: Lockheed Electra
3783-3790: Beechcraft Model 17
3791-3815: Douglas DC-3

(Note: FAB3515 to FAB3523 are ex-Bolivian aircraft)

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Swamphen" (Mar 2nd 2007, 1:38am)


Friday, March 2nd 2007, 2:22am

YOU have TOOOOOOO much time on your hands!!!!!!


Friday, March 2nd 2007, 3:44am

Far too much, I'm afraid...

Forgot the trainers:

11100-11116: Curtiss JN
11117-11145: Avro 504
11146-11194: FMA T-514
11195-11225: Consolidated NY-2
11226-11274: FMA I.Ae 3
11275-11335: FMA I.Ae 1*
11336-11384: FMA I.Ae 2

* Serialled in the trainer series by error as they were ordered at the same time. The parties responsbile have been reassigned to census piranha.


Friday, March 2nd 2007, 3:53am


But not enough story ideas. Writer's block is troublesome for someone with so much time on their hands.
Hail, Freedonia!


Wednesday, March 21st 2007, 4:02pm

And here's the Order of Battle broken down by air bases. The original orbat (first post) actually doesn't look too shabby. However, when you go by bases, you realise that the FAB is actually spread rather thin at the moment...

(Hence, the Ultraviolet Priority expansion.)

Note that this includes only operational combat aircraft. Transport, trainer, working-up or on-order aircraft not included.

(See first post in thread for FAB designation system.)

I FAe (Bolivia-Peru)
IFAB Rio Branco
2º/5º GDA - F-4
2º/10º GAv - R-2

IFAB Cuiaba
1º/5º GDA - F-3
5º/8º GAvCA - B-5

IFAB San Jose de Chiquitos
3º/8º GAvCA - F-4
1º/11º GAv - R-2, R-22

II FAe (SAE-Paraguay)
IFAB Campo Grande
2º/7º GDA - MS.130
6º/7º GAvCA - F-4
2º/8º GAv - R-2

IFAB Florianopolis
3º/7º GDA - MS.130, NiD.72C.1
5º/7º GAvCA - F-4
1º/8º GAv - R-2

IFAB Sao Paulo
1º/7º GDA - F-3
4º/7º GAvCA - B-5
1º/9º GAv - P-21

III FAe (Northern Border)
IFAB Manaus
4º/3º GAvCA - F-4
1º/4º GAv - R-2
2º/6º GAv - A-16

IFAB Boa Vista
2º/3º GDA - F-14
3º/3º GAv - R-22

IFAB Macapa
1º/3º GDA - F-14
1º/6º GAv - A-16
1º/15º GAv - P-21

IV FAe (Coast)
IFAB Sao Luis
1º/10º GDA - F-19
4º/2º GAv - P-1

IFAB Recife
1º/14º GAv - R-22, A-16
1º/2º GAv - P-17

IFAB Ilheus
1º/16º GAvCA - F-4
3º/2º GAv - P-1

2º/10º GDA - F-19, F-18
2º/2º GAv - P-6

V FAe (Interior)
IFAB Goiania

IFAB Palmas
7º/8º GAv - R-2

And an update to the Serial Numbers List

3816 : EMBRAER EMB-36 (Seversky P-35)
3817-3819: Sienar V-25 (Hall XPTBH-2)
3820-3826: FMA I.Ae 5S
3827-3851: Boulton Paul Defiant
3852-3859: EMBRAER EMB-28 (Seversky SEV-3XP)
3860-3863: Martin XB-16
3864: TNCA C-5R

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Swamphen" (Mar 21st 2007, 4:03pm)