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Whatever happened to the Goeben refit?
Just a question from an interested observer - what did happen to it? Was the idea shelved? I love the look of Osmanieh but it's be great to see Goeben/Yavuz Sultan Selim last as long in service to Turkey as it did in real life.
Edit: and by refit, I meant complete rebuilt.
It hasn't been ordered yet, but there have been some discussions about such a rebuild between Turkey and Germany.
I see.. interesting. Thanks.
I can confirm what Hrolf said. I'd like very much to give her a rebuild giving her some more sheer forward and sprucing up her superstructure somewhat.
The only thing still to be worked out is where to put her secondary's, with the lack of deck space and conflicting firing arcs its difficult. I've even considered double casemates as in the Graf Zeppelin.
Right now her rebuild is being put on hold till the Osmanieh is completed along with a few other projects in between as well.
I don't know. If the Greeks have their way, she won't last until 1940 must less 1970.
Osmanieh will be done long before the feared collapse of the treaty.
Over on Marinearchiv.de there was a extensive rebild of Yavuz.
It had 9 280mm in 3 triples at 28+ kt.
A powerfull ship
That extensive a re-build probably wouldn't be cost-effective in WesWorld, that would require changing the barbettes (unless you mounted the triple turrets on twin barbettes, which would be BAD for rate of fire). But if changing barbettes was a bit cheaper, yeah, it could probably be done.
Heres an idea I came up with to include some decent secondary's into the Yavuz rebuild...
I'm wondering if I can mount the starboard side 5.9" guns further back....over the turbines.
What caliber of guns are installed in the new secondary turrets?
If they are still 5.9" - the turrets/deck space would seem to be very crowded. Maybe twin 5.9" would be a better choice.
Are you going to make any changes to the main battery - for example increasing the elevation/range capabilities?
Would it be better to use DP guns for the new secondary battery since there isn't a lot of deck space for new AA guns (4.1 or 3.46 to complement the secondary 5.9" guns)
I like it, but I don't know enough about the technical side to make comments in that area, like Mr Stauffer
Won't the secondaries prevent cross-deck firing though?
I'm basically giving up on cross deck firing but if shes going to be refitted by the Germans changing the elevation of the main guns would seem prudent.
As for the secondarys she already has 12x88mm and yes they are 5.9" allthough I think twins would make for a poor secondary broadside.
I am thinking about some sort of DP mount but either way I think she will still be abit crowded.
Friday, May 24th 2024, 6:09am
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