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Originally posted by Earl822
Presently Nordmark only has 5 classes of CL in full service, with most of the rest of our Cl's built from 1904 onwards are still in reserve. Despite this, the proportion of our active cruisr force is from 1915, and haven't yet been refitted. I am considering flottila leaders, but am unsure of their usefulness in a more multitask role.
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Originally posted by Red Admiral
Build as big as possible, i.e. 8.000ton ships rather than 6.000tons or smaller. Room for growth and stability should be paramount, even at the expense of other qualities.
With a hull that large, multipurpose has to creep in, so hangar for 2 aircraft, a bit of excess weight for extra stores, not too many torpedoes, 6 or 8, a few AA guns.
Something like La Galissonnière?
Speed should be 30-31knts to keep up with carriers and other capital ships.
I think that the RSAN will eventually get into Colony Class ships, the needs of the two navies being broadly similar.
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Originally posted by Guilherme Loureiro
After that, I'd build at least 4 8,000 cruisers, something like La Galissonière, like Red Admiral said. What I'm not sure is what I'd build after those cruisers(CL30?), another DL class or more cruisers.
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Originally posted by thesmilingassassin
Agreed, the 8,000 ton cruiser seems to be the favorite here. Looks like Hoo may step away from his trademark small, fast and potent designs! ;-)
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The British Colony-class cruisers are what I have in mind anyway (see above). So - should I probably build two classes? One Colony-kind of vessel with 12 guns but no floatplane which will then be used in company with a 9-gun ship which features floatplane facilities?
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TROMP is just too inspiring. ;o) Even if I build something along those lines just for fun
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Originally posted by HoOmAn
Keep in mind the RSAN has used only 63% of its tonnage allotment for cruisers category B so far. And this includes 11 Torpedoboats of 2,000ts each armed with 15cm guns.
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Originally posted by Guilherme Loureiro
It looks like we have different points of view regarding how small cruisers can be while still fulfilling their tasks; you seem to regard 6,000 tons as enough, while I'd prefer having at least 7,000 tons(at least in the SAE's case - had it been another country, I'd seriously consider 5,000-6,000 ton ships).
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Originally posted by Ithekro
I don't know about large torpedo boats, but you might want to investigate larger destroyers at some point in time. It seems ships are getting larger and submarines are starting to dive deeper, so a longer ranged destroyer that could operate independantly from a convoy should they need to start hunting an enemy submarine or track a raider.
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Originally posted by Red Admiral
I think that a 12-gun ship on 8.000tons leaves a design that is too cramped and sacrifices other qualities. Then you could go for a 9-gun ship to save deckspace, but the 4x2 arrangment is better for gunnery...and so it goes on. I wouldn't be surprised to see 4x2x150mm gunned cruisers with similar armour as before but more AA gun power and a bit more misc. weight for other things.
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Originally posted by HoOmAn
Why do you think the RSAN needs larger ships than other countries? Because of inefficient designs so far (twin turrets where others already used triples etc.)?
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If I go for a 10-gun design I´d choose 5 twin mounts but a 8,000ts cruiser might not be long enough. Guess I have to do a small sketch to be sure...
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