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Lund class, Nordmark Baltic Battleship laid down 1930

Displacement:
7,581 t light; 7,933 t standard; 8,640 t normal; 9,206 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
425.36 ft / 420.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
129.65 m / 128.02 m x 18.29 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
6 - 9.45" / 240 mm guns (3x2 guns), 421.80lbs / 191.33kg shells, 1930 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
12 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (6x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1930 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
32 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1930 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
20 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1930 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 10 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3,073 lbs / 1,394 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 8.00" / 203 mm 225.00 ft / 68.58 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: 2.00" / 51 mm 195.00 ft / 59.44 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Main Belt covers 82 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
2.00" / 51 mm 225.00 ft / 68.58 m 18.00 ft / 5.49 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.0" / 254 mm 7.00" / 178 mm 7.00" / 178 mm
2nd: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 5.00" / 127 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 15,532 shp / 11,587 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 6,300nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,273 tons

Complement:
447 - 582

Cost:
£2.734 million / $10.937 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 384 tons, 4.4 %
Armour: 3,752 tons, 43.4 %
- Belts: 958 tons, 11.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 300 tons, 3.5 %
- Armament: 672 tons, 7.8 %
- Armour Deck: 1,777 tons, 20.6 %
- Conning Tower: 45 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 471 tons, 5.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,924 tons, 33.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,059 tons, 12.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
15,036 lbs / 6,820 Kg = 35.6 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 3.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 15.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.54
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.07

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.600
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.81 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Mid (50 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Stern: 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Average freeboard: 12.96 ft / 3.95 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 78.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98.2 %
Waterplane Area: 19,209 Square feet or 1,785 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 111 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 537 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.39
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

2 ships built Lund & Malmö

Sverige with triple 238mm turrets instead of duple 280mm?

Not sure on the torpedo bulkhead, probably insufficient beam.

Quoted

Not sure on the torpedo bulkhead, probably insufficient beam.

Same here actually, but without it she won't be able to stand up to many torpedo's in the Baltic

Alternative Design

Lund class, Nordmark Baltic Battleship laid down 1930

Displacement:
7,581 t light; 7,933 t standard; 8,640 t normal; 9,206 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
425.36 ft / 420.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
129.65 m / 128.02 m x 18.29 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
6 - 9.45" / 240 mm guns (3x2 guns), 421.80lbs / 191.33kg shells, 1930 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
12 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (6x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1930 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
32 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1930 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
20 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1930 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 10 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3,073 lbs / 1,394 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12.0" / 305 mm 220.00 ft / 67.06 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Ends: 1.00" / 25 mm 200.00 ft / 60.96 m 10.00 ft / 3.05 m
Main Belt covers 81 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.0" / 254 mm 7.00" / 178 mm 7.00" / 178 mm
2nd: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 5.00" / 127 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 15,532 shp / 11,587 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 6,300nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,273 tons

Complement:
447 - 582

Cost:
£2.734 million / $10.937 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 384 tons, 4.4 %
Armour: 3,768 tons, 43.6 %
- Belts: 1,274 tons, 14.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 672 tons, 7.8 %
- Armour Deck: 1,777 tons, 20.6 %
- Conning Tower: 45 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 471 tons, 5.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,908 tons, 33.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,059 tons, 12.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,975 lbs / 6,793 Kg = 35.5 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 3.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.07
Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 15.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.56
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.600
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.81 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Mid (50 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Stern: 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Average freeboard: 12.96 ft / 3.95 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 52.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98.2 %
Waterplane Area: 19,209 Square feet or 1,785 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 110 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 534 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.50
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

2 ships built Lund & Malmö


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Lund class, Nordmark Baltic Battleship laid down 1930

Displacement:
7,572 t light; 7,933 t standard; 8,640 t normal; 9,206 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
425.36 ft / 420.00 ft x 60.00 ft x 20.00 ft (normal load)
129.65 m / 128.02 m x 18.29 m x 6.10 m

Armament:
4 - 11.02" / 280 mm guns (2x2 guns), 669.80lbs / 303.81kg shells, 1930 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (6x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1930 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
32 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1930 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 4 raised mounts
20 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1930 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 10 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3,221 lbs / 1,461 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 12.0" / 305 mm 215.00 ft / 65.53 m 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
Ends: 1.00" / 25 mm 205.00 ft / 62.48 m 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
Main Belt covers 79 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.0" / 254 mm 7.00" / 178 mm 7.00" / 178 mm
2nd: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 5.00" / 127 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 15,532 shp / 11,587 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 6,300nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,273 tons

Complement:
447 - 582

Cost:
£2.798 million / $11.192 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 403 tons, 4.7 %
Armour: 3,736 tons, 43.2 %
- Belts: 1,381 tons, 16.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 533 tons, 6.2 %
- Armour Deck: 1,777 tons, 20.6 %
- Conning Tower: 45 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 471 tons, 5.4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,913 tons, 33.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,068 tons, 12.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,933 lbs / 6,773 Kg = 22.3 x 11.0 " / 280 mm shells or 2.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.13
Metacentric height 2.9 ft / 0.9 m
Roll period: 14.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 57 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.51
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.600
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.81 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 51 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Mid (50 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Stern: 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Average freeboard: 12.96 ft / 3.95 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 54.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 98.2 %
Waterplane Area: 19,209 Square feet or 1,785 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 109 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 110 lbs/sq ft or 536 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.54
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate

2 ships built Lund & Malmö

The second two are definitely unrealistic when compared to Sverige.

What about VÄJNÄMÖINEN-types? Can build 2 of them for each of the larger design.

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/bk/NWS/Royal_S…igns/index.html

A few historical designs here from the 1930s. All with 254mm and 120mm guns.

What is this vessel designed to engage? Who would be her primary adversary? That will deturmine the gun type you'll need on the Baltic Sea.

They are Nordmarks next generation of coastal Battleships (all of which serve in the Baltic). It is either this or have no serviceable coastal BB's after 1934 as 4 will be scrapped as ancient (1908, without 1 refit), and the other two will be rerated as bombardment ships, if they aren't scapped.

Yes that is true, but what vessel would they be built to engage or defend the coast of Nordmark from. Function generally follows purpose. I'd expect they would be designed to handle the existing and proposed German vessels short of their dreadnoughts and perhaps Russian warships as well. So conventional thinking would rate these ships as being able to take hits from large shells and still be able to punch through the armor of these threats and potentially be able to threaten the larger German battleships and maybe even some of the Russian battleships.

Its not being critical, just trying to focus the design a little, at least in my head.

Their armor is very good, and being able to take several underwater hits is good, considering how full of mines the Baltic will be. However, the firepower is a bit anemic...

That's probably partially the result of trying to fit into the 8000 ton CDS limit, at least that's my guess.

Correct, I'm getting very annoyed at trying to get this design to work how I want it to.
I'm not sure if i should reduce speed to 15knots, to allow an increase in armour, or wheter I should just refit the older ships, or build large numbers of torpedo-boats and minesweepers, plus several concrete fortresses.

I don´t think a transome stern would do much good on such a design - in reality....

I also think you´re rather optimistic regarding deck space. Have you tried drawing such a vessel. Especially those with three twin mounts. Those will eat up a lot of space. Can´t see you fitting all the AA mounts on her. Allowing them good arcs, that is, they can surely be "stored" somewhere.

Their draught is also exessive given the environment you plan to use them for.

100 shells for their main guns only? Huh....

So finally, I´d revise her design. Skip the transome stern, skip at least half of her AA suit, reduce draught and make sure you have some more shells at hand.

Revised

Lund class, Nordmark Baltic Battleship laid down 1930

Displacement:
7,527 t light; 7,958 t standard; 9,126 t normal; 10,060 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
430.26 ft / 420.00 ft x 65.00 ft x 18.00 ft (normal load)
131.14 m / 128.02 m x 19.81 m x 5.49 m

Armament:
6 - 9.45" / 240 mm guns (3x2 guns), 421.80lbs / 191.33kg shells, 1930 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (4x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1930 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (2x8 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1930 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
10 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1930 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 2,883 lbs / 1,308 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 11.5" / 292 mm 170.00 ft / 51.82 m 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
Ends: 1.00" / 25 mm 250.00 ft / 76.20 m 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
Main Belt covers 62 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.0" / 254 mm 7.00" / 178 mm 7.00" / 178 mm
2nd: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 5.00" / 127 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 5,409 shp / 4,035 Kw = 15.00 kts
Range 9,150nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,102 tons

Complement:
466 - 606

Cost:
£2.464 million / $9.854 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 360 tons, 3.9 %
Armour: 3,839 tons, 42.1 %
- Belts: 1,166 tons, 12.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 691 tons, 7.6 %
- Armour Deck: 1,934 tons, 21.2 %
- Conning Tower: 47 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 164 tons, 1.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,114 tons, 34.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,599 tons, 17.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
24,514 lbs / 11,119 Kg = 58.1 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 4.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.16
Metacentric height 3.4 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 14.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.52
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.61

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.650
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.46 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 35 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
- Mid (80 %): 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
- Stern: 14.00 ft / 4.27 m
- Average freeboard: 14.96 ft / 4.56 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 38.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 119.7 %
Waterplane Area: 20,913 Square feet or 1,943 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 129 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 531 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.57
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

2 ships built Lund & Malmö

I'd think, given the seaboat rating, that you could reduce the freeboard a bit and add more armor if you wanted to, or perhaps a bit more horsepower for speed. Also, with only 5400 shp, you certainly don't need 4 shafts and propellors.

without the freeboard I haven't got enough deck space.

Revised Again


Lund class, Nordmark Baltic Battleship laid down 1930

Displacement:
7,532 t light; 7,962 t standard; 9,126 t normal; 10,057 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
430.26 ft / 420.00 ft x 65.00 ft x 18.00 ft (normal load)
131.14 m / 128.02 m x 19.81 m x 5.49 m

Armament:
6 - 9.45" / 240 mm guns (3x2 guns), 421.80lbs / 191.33kg shells, 1930 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (4x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1930 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (2x8 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1930 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
10 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1930 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 2,883 lbs / 1,308 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 11.5" / 292 mm 180.00 ft / 54.86 m 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
Ends: 1.00" / 25 mm 240.00 ft / 73.15 m 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
Main Belt covers 66 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 10.0" / 254 mm 7.00" / 178 mm 7.00" / 178 mm
2nd: 3.00" / 76 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 1.00" / 25 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 5.00" / 127 mm, Conning tower: 5.00" / 127 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 6,830 shp / 5,095 Kw = 16.00 kts
Range 7,700nm at 16.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,095 tons

Complement:
466 - 606

Cost:
£2.489 million / $9.957 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 360 tons, 3.9 %
Armour: 3,858 tons, 42.3 %
- Belts: 1,206 tons, 13.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 670 tons, 7.3 %
- Armour Deck: 1,934 tons, 21.2 %
- Conning Tower: 47 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 207 tons, 2.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,056 tons, 33.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,594 tons, 17.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 50 tons, 0.5 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
22,979 lbs / 10,423 Kg = 54.5 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 4.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.17
Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 14.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 76 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.46
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.52

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.650
Length to Beam Ratio: 6.46 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 38 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 13.00 ft / 3.96 m
- Mid (80 %): 13.00 ft / 3.96 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13.00 ft / 3.96 m
- Stern: 13.00 ft / 3.96 m
- Average freeboard: 14.08 ft / 4.29 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 39.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 111.1 %
Waterplane Area: 20,913 Square feet or 1,943 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 108 lbs/sq ft or 528 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.96
- Longitudinal: 1.46
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

2 ships built Lund & Malmö

Why not try a 2x3 layout (if it's possible on that beam)?

For something designed to work in the Baltic, she's got far too much bunkerage. Little more than a way to increase the size without increasing standard displacement, I think.

I think it's overkill for shore bombardment, way too slow to fight cruisers, and utterly outclassed by any existing pre-dreadnought or dreadnought.

Nordmark has decided to cancel the planned construction of these two ships, and spend the money on the construction of new cruisers and destroyers. The current CDS ships of the Navy will be placed in reserve in 1934, following an increase in Gun elevation to suit them for use as bombardment ships

Excellent...now I shall turn my attention to Dutch battleships:

"These are not the ships you're looking for."

"These are not the ships we're looking for."