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Rynda, Russian Light Cruiser laid down 1946

Displacement:
4,950 t light; 5,347 t standard; 6,130 t normal; 6,756 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
525.99 ft / 508.53 ft x 50.85 ft x 15.09 ft (normal load)
160.32 m / 155.00 m x 15.50 m x 4.60 m

Armament:
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1939 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 15.43lbs / 7.00kg shells, 1946 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1939 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
8 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.10lbs / 0.05kg shells, 1946 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 722 lbs / 328 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 650
6 - 20.9" / 530 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 410.11 ft / 125.00 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 124 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
4th: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Conning tower: 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 67,058 shp / 50,026 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 6,500nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,409 tons

Complement:
346 - 450

Cost:
£3.348 million / $13.391 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 77 tons, 1.3 %
Armour: 342 tons, 5.6 %
- Belts: 300 tons, 4.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 28 tons, 0.5 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 14 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,675 tons, 27.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,407 tons, 39.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,180 tons, 19.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 450 tons, 7.3 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6,675 lbs / 3,028 Kg = 99.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 14.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.43
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25.59 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 35.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.93 ft / 7.60 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 23.95 ft / 7.30 m
- Mid (60 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m (14.11 ft / 4.30 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.11 ft / 4.30 m
- Stern: 14.11 ft / 4.30 m
- Average freeboard: 19.98 ft / 6.09 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 167.3 %
Waterplane Area: 18,784 Square feet or 1,745 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 129 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 77 lbs/sq ft or 376 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.87
- Longitudinal: 1.84
- Overall: 0.94
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

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Yenisei-class, Russian Icebreaker laid down 1946

Displacement:
5,178 t light; 5,363 t standard; 6,897 t normal; 8,124 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
305.31 ft / 295.28 ft x 59.06 ft x 21.33 ft (normal load)
93.06 m / 90.00 m x 18.00 m x 6.50 m

Armament:
3 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns in single mounts, 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1940 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount
4 - 0.57" / 14.5 mm guns in single mounts, 0.09lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1946 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
Weight of broadside 238 lbs / 108 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 350

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 167.32 ft / 51.00 m 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
Ends: 1.97" / 50 mm 111.52 ft / 33.99 m 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
16.44 ft / 5.01 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 87 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.18" / 30 mm 167.32 ft / 51.00 m 22.97 ft / 7.00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
2nd: 0.20" / 5 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 4,950 shp / 3,692 Kw = 15.00 kts
Range 15,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,762 tons

Complement:
377 - 491

Cost:
£1.588 million / $6.351 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 30 tons, 0.4 %
Armour: 720 tons, 10.4 %
- Belts: 543 tons, 7.9 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 168 tons, 2.4 %
- Armament: 10 tons, 0.1 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 124 tons, 1.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,139 tons, 31.0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,719 tons, 24.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 2,165 tons, 31.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14,270 lbs / 6,473 Kg = 212.9 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 4.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 2.8 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 14.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.06
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.83

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.649
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 17.18 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 34
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Forecastle (25 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 14.80 ft / 4.51 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 68.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 93.1 %
Waterplane Area: 13,348 Square feet or 1,240 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 204 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 109 lbs/sq ft or 530 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1.36
- Longitudinal: 3.62
- Overall: 1.50
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

Quoted from "eltf177"

Your CL has two big problems:

1) Hull strength is 0.94 causing strain, this should be fixed
2) Design has no deck armor

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Rynda-class (Project 80), Russian Light Cruiser laid down 1946

Displacement:
5,075 t light; 5,476 t standard; 6,268 t normal; 6,902 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
525.99 ft / 508.53 ft x 50.85 ft x 15.42 ft (normal load)
160.32 m / 155.00 m x 15.50 m x 4.70 m

Armament:
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (4x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1939 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 15.43lbs / 7.00kg shells, 1946 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1939 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
8 - 0.59" / 15.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.10lbs / 0.05kg shells, 1946 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 722 lbs / 328 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 650
6 - 20.9" / 530 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 1.57" / 40 mm 410.11 ft / 125.00 m 11.48 ft / 3.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 124 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -
4th: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Armour deck: 0.59" / 15 mm, Conning tower: 1.97" / 50 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 67,939 shp / 50,683 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 6,500nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,426 tons

Complement:
351 - 457

Cost:
£3.401 million / $13.603 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 77 tons, 1.2 %
Armour: 547 tons, 8.7 %
- Belts: 300 tons, 4.8 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 28 tons, 0.4 %
- Armour Deck: 205 tons, 3.3 %
- Conning Tower: 14 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,697 tons, 27.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,305 tons, 36.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,193 tons, 19.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 450 tons, 7.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
6,585 lbs / 2,987 Kg = 98.2 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 1.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 14.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.42
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.12

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25.59 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 62 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 63
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 35.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.93 ft / 7.60 m
- Forecastle (30 %): 23.95 ft / 7.30 m
- Mid (60 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m (14.11 ft / 4.30 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.11 ft / 4.30 m
- Stern: 14.11 ft / 4.30 m
- Average freeboard: 19.98 ft / 6.09 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 109.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 165.0 %
Waterplane Area: 18,792 Square feet or 1,746 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 125 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 73 lbs/sq ft or 358 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.83
- Longitudinal: 1.76
- Overall: 0.90
Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 70 tons for electronics
- 30 tons for twelve 53cm reload torpedoes (two reloads per tube)
- 50 tons strengthened aft deck (for minelaying gear or helicopter)
- 30 tons for climatization gear
- 50 tons for degausing cables
- 40 tons for flag spaces
- 150 tons for 130mm automation gear and other associated weights
- 30 tons other miscellaneous weight

Electronics Suite:
- NR-132 surface and air-search radar (2 radar, 15 tons)
- NR-136 height-finding and air-search radar (1 radar, 7.5 tons)
- NR-119 navigational and air-warning radar (1 radar, 2.5 tons)
- NR-160bis fire-control radar (1 radar, 7.5 tons)
- NR-170 AA fire-control radar (2 radars, 5 tons)
- Radar jammer/detector (2 units, 2 tons)
- French-built SAGEM HF/DF (3 tons)
- Diesel emergency electric generator (5 tons)
- Two gunnery computers (fore and aft stations) (10 tons)

Ships in Class:
- Rynda

Quoted from "eltf177"

I didn't realize cost was an issue, but deck armor is a good thing...

Overall a nice design if you need numbers without breaking the budget.

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Serdityi-class (Project 69U), Russian Destroyer laid down 1946

Displacement:
2,350 t light; 2,565 t standard; 2,948 t normal; 3,254 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
446.19 ft / 429.79 ft x 41.01 ft x 13.78 ft (normal load)
136.00 m / 131.00 m x 12.50 m x 4.20 m

Armament:
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (3x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1946 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (1x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts
12 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns (6x2 guns), 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1946 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 496 lbs / 225 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 550
8 - 25.6" / 650 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.38" / 35 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.38" / 35 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
3rd: 0.39" / 10 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Conning tower: 3.15" / 80 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 47,465 shp / 35,409 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 689 tons

Complement:
199 - 260

Cost:
£2.114 million / $8.455 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 63 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 43 tons, 1.5 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 29 tons, 1.0 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 14 tons, 0.5 %
Machinery: 1,165 tons, 39.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 920 tons, 31.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 598 tons, 20.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 160 tons, 5.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,106 lbs / 502 Kg = 16.5 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.18
Metacentric height 1.8 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 12.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.55
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.16

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.425
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.48 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23.80 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 63 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 27.75 degrees
Stern overhang: 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 28.05 ft / 8.55 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m
- Mid (40 %): 21.00 ft / 6.40 m (14.01 ft / 4.27 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.01 ft / 4.27 m
- Stern: 14.01 ft / 4.27 m
- Average freeboard: 17.37 ft / 5.29 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 154.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 94.8 %
Waterplane Area: 11,448 Square feet or 1,064 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 96 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 43 lbs/sq ft or 210 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.52
- Longitudinal: 1.65
- Overall: 0.59
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
Not yet available

Ships in Class:
- Serdityi (Enraged)
- Samouvarenniy (Opinionated)
- Bezposhchadny (Merciless)
- Gromky (Loud)
- Raztropny (Prompt)
- Stoikiy (Steadfast)
- Gnevny (Wrathful)
- Statniy (Stately)
- Ryany (Spirited)
- Storozhevoi (Protective)
- Gremyashchy (Reverberating)
- Nastoychivyy (Persistant)

Quoted from "BruceDuncan"

Looks like a very reasonable design, though they will require larger building slips. I guess that is the price to be paid to keep sea-handling in line with the growth of armament and sensors.

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Serdityi (Type 77U), Russian Bol'shoy Protivolodochny Korabl' laid down 1946

Displacement:
2,465 t light; 2,681 t standard; 3,075 t normal; 3,390 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
472.96 ft / 459.32 ft x 42.65 ft x 12.80 ft (normal load)
144.16 m / 140.00 m x 13.00 m x 3.90 m

Armament:
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (3x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1946 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (1x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns in single mounts, 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1946 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 495 lbs / 225 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 550
8 - 25.6" / 650 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.59" / 15 mm

- Conning tower: 1.18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 47,487 shp / 35,425 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 708 tons

Complement:
206 - 268

Cost:
£2.162 million / $8.650 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 63 tons, 2.0 %
Armour: 15 tons, 0.5 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 10 tons, 0.3 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 5 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,186 tons, 38.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,021 tons, 33.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 610 tons, 19.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 180 tons, 5.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,395 lbs / 633 Kg = 20.8 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.27
Metacentric height 2.2 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 12.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.51
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.42

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.429
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.77 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.53 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 23.62 ft / 7.20 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 22.31 ft / 6.80 m (14.76 ft / 4.50 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 18.82 ft / 5.74 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 150.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 126.4 %
Waterplane Area: 12,767 Square feet or 1,186 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 100 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 42 lbs/sq ft or 207 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.51
- Longitudinal: 1.75
- Overall: 0.57
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 60 tons for electronics
- 12 tons for four 65cm M-1944 reload torpedoes
- 16 tons for climatization gear
- 22 tons for mines or depth charges
- 15 tons for two 9K42-M6 "Groza" 2x4 32cm launchers and reloads
- 10 tons for ASW command center
- 20 tons for assorted gear and crew comforts
- 25 tons for helicopter and landing deck (not usually embarked)

Electronics Suite:
- NR-132 surface and air-search radar (1 radar, 7.5 tons)
- NR-136 height-finding and air-search radar (1 radar, 7.5 tons)
- NR-119 navigational and air-warning radar (1 radar, 2.5 tons)
- NR-160bis fire-control radar (1 radar, 7.5 tons)
- NR-170 AA fire-control radar (2 radars, 5 tons)
- Radar jammer/detector (2 units, 2 tons)
- French-built SAGEM HF/DF (3 tons)
- Sonar (8 tons)
- Paravane hydrophone and cable reel (10 tons)
- Diesel emergency electric generator (5 tons)
- Gunnery computer for 130mm guns (2 tons)

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Varyag-class, Russian Escort Cruisers laid down 1946

Displacement:
13,725 t light; 14,299 t standard; 16,923 t normal; 19,022 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
721.78 ft / 721.78 ft x 72.18 ft x 20.67 ft (normal load)
220.00 m / 220.00 m x 22.00 m x 6.30 m

Armament:
6 - 9.21" / 234 mm guns (3x2 guns), 440.92lbs / 200.00kg shells, 1931 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
16 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (8x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1946 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, 4 raised mounts - superfiring
32 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3,965 lbs / 1,799 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 100

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.72" / 120 mm 469.16 ft / 143.00 m 10.20 ft / 3.11 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6.69" / 170 mm 2.76" / 70 mm 4.72" / 120 mm
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.59" / 15 mm
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Armour deck: 2.76" / 70 mm, Conning tower: 4.72" / 120 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 98,136 shp / 73,210 Kw = 32.00 kts
Range 12,000nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,723 tons

Complement:
741 - 964

Cost:
£8.581 million / $34.324 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 460 tons, 2.7 %
Armour: 3,478 tons, 20.6 %
- Belts: 943 tons, 5.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 538 tons, 3.2 %
- Armour Deck: 1,930 tons, 11.4 %
- Conning Tower: 67 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 2,451 tons, 14.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,891 tons, 40.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,198 tons, 18.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 445 tons, 2.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
29,540 lbs / 13,399 Kg = 75.6 x 9.2 " / 234 mm shells or 3.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.14
Metacentric height 3.9 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 15.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 72 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.62
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.24

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 52 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 58
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.86 ft / 9.10 m
- Forecastle (25 %): 28.22 ft / 8.60 m
- Mid (50 %): 26.57 ft / 8.10 m (16.40 ft / 5.00 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Stern: 16.40 ft / 5.00 m
- Average freeboard: 22.27 ft / 6.79 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 71.1 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 204.2 %
Waterplane Area: 37,854 Square feet or 3,517 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 135 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 124 lbs/sq ft or 608 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.98
- Longitudinal: 1.11
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

155 tons per twin turret - 465 tons saved in total.

Quoted from "Hood"

A nice set of designs.
Maybe its worth posting a refitted Varyag class to compare?

Quoted from "Rooijen10"

I see various times nonsense like "for future growth" or "growth room" in the miscellaneous weights breakdown.

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Ognevoy, Russian Heavy Destroyer laid down 1938 (Engine 1946)

Displacement:
2,637 t light; 2,880 t standard; 3,288 t normal; 3,615 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
483.15 ft / 465.88 ft x 44.29 ft x 13.94 ft (normal load)
147.26 m / 142.00 m x 13.50 m x 4.25 m

Armament:
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (3x2 guns), 79.37lbs / 36.00kg shells, 1946 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
4 - 2.95" / 75.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 15.43lbs / 7.00kg shells, 1946 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline, all aft, all raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
8 - 0.55" / 14.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.08lbs / 0.04kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 551 lbs / 250 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 550
8 - 20.9" / 530 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.38" / 35 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
2nd: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm -
4th: 0.39" / 10 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Conning tower: 2.76" / 70 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 52,693 shp / 39,309 Kw = 34.75 kts
Range 5,000nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 734 tons

Complement:
216 - 282

Cost:
£1.872 million / $7.487 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 68 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 50 tons, 1.5 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 37 tons, 1.1 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 13 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 1,302 tons, 39.6 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,056 tons, 32.1 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 651 tons, 19.8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 160 tons, 4.9 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,315 lbs / 597 Kg = 19.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
Metacentric height 2.1 ft / 0.6 m
Roll period: 12.9 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 80 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.49
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.32

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.400
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.52 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.86 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 61 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 61
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1.64 ft / 0.50 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 27.07 ft / 8.25 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 22.15 ft / 6.75 m
- Mid (40 %): 22.15 ft / 6.75 m (15.58 ft / 4.75 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 15.58 ft / 4.75 m
- Stern: 15.58 ft / 4.75 m
- Average freeboard: 18.60 ft / 5.67 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 153.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 150.6 %
Waterplane Area: 13,182 Square feet or 1,225 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 97 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 44 lbs/sq ft or 213 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.51
- Longitudinal: 1.60
- Overall: 0.57
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Ships in Class:
- Ognevoy
- Ozornoi
- Otverzhdyonny
- Osmotritelny
- Obraztsovy
- Odaryonny

Quoted from "Rooijen10"

Just refit it and add a bit of miscellaneous weight to it for the radar and other stuff on it during refit (as long as the refit covers that stuff) and then do a minor increase in draught to match the added weight and then decrease freeboard with the same amount as was added to the draught.

I see various times nonsense like "for future growth" or "growth room" in the miscellaneous weights breakdown. I'm pretty sure that the builders of old weren't like "let us put 100 tons of ballast on the design because we can remove some of that in 15 years time so we can fit a radar and other stuff onto the ship when it becomes available." I'm pretty sure that stuff was just added to ships and they ended up becoming a little bit heavier with the extra weight. I think that the "growth room" bit is especially weird. It kind of sounds like "we need this bit of area in the ship clear because 15 years from now we need to put this room in that place that has all this special equipment to detect things."

Quoted

I mostly use that as a sort of term for "other minor assorted equipment I forgot but shall remember a couple months from now."

Quoted

The big change comes with the replacement of the superior German 150mm and 88m guns with inferior Russian 130mm and 75mm main guns.

Quoted from "Rooijen10"

Quoted

The big change comes with the replacement of the superior German 150mm and 88m guns with inferior Russian 130mm and 75mm main guns.

I'm pretty sure that this is how Bruce sees it. :)