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Originally posted by Rooijen10
Brock, I can see why RA said that. Of all the comments you listed, only snip's reply is clear and specific about his opposal of the use of SS3 in Wesworld. All other replies, including yours, can be interpreted differently (and "...we should be fine with SS2" is probably the weakest of them all).
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Originally posted by Red Admiral
There doesn't seem to be an opposition to SS3b2 per se.
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They look perfectly clear and specific enough for me. Some of the answers hedge a bit by saying they would accept other people using SS3b2 if everyone else accepted it, but there's plenty of people who said that they don't want to accept SS3b2.
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I want this debate finished, and I want everyone to be clear on what the result is.
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
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I want this debate finished, and I want everyone to be clear on what the result is.
I don't care whether it is SS2 or SS3, but if you want to finish it right here and right now, do it as a mod and use KISS...
... Like this:
"SS2 is the program we use. SS3 will not be used. End of the discussion."
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
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I want this debate finished, and I want everyone to be clear on what the result is.
I don't care whether it is SS2 or SS3, but if you want to finish it right here and right now, do it as a mod and use KISS...
... Like this:
"SS2 is the program we use. SS3 will not be used. End of the discussion."
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
In this case, I think it's starting to veer off that track. While most people have said things to the effect that RA interprets them as not caring, I (and presumably Brock) interpret it more along the lines of them being open to change, if they're presented with a compelling reason for it, as well as couching their replies in plain courtesy and politeness. I know that's how I feel, and how I presented my opinion.
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
All other replies, including yours, can be interpreted differently (and "...we should be fine with SS2" is probably the weakest of them all).
Perhaps the use of "the only tool" (or something like that) might have been better than speaking of "standard".
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"First shalt thou open thine Holy SpringSharp, then shalt thou use version two, no more, no less. Two shall be the number thou shalt use, and the number of the using shall be two. Three shalt thou not use, neither use thou one, excepting that thou then proceed to two. Four is right out. Once the number two, being the second number, be reached, then usist thou thy Holy SpringSharp of Internet against thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."
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"First shalt thou open the Holy SpringSharp, then shalt thou use version two, no more, no less. Two shall be the number thou shalt use, and the number of the using shall be two. Three shalt thou not use, neither use thou one, excepting that thou then proceed to two. Four is right out. Once the number two, being the second number, be reached, then usist thou thy Holy Springsharp of Internet against thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
If anyone wishes to clarify their comments as meaning something else, now is the opportunity. At the end of the weekend, I, with the Mod Hat on, will consider the matter closed, until such time as there is a new program that theoretically fits our ongoing, post-1950 needs. In which case, a new discussion should be opened.
If anyone, specifically, wishes to endorse their preference for SS3b2 (Either as a wholesale switchover, or being allowed alongside SS2), kindly say as much.
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Originally posted by Kaiser Kirk
3. The gains appear to be minor. The primary "gain" of a new SS would be fixing the DD problem. This fails to do that.
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Originally posted by Red Admiral
So the argument to not use SS3b2 is simply because it's new? Wow, that's really persuasive.
If you read the orginal post in this thread, SS3b2 does some things better than SS2 but is using the same underlying physics meaning there will be no massive changes between ships in the different versions. Far more flexibility in modelling ships for the sake of a couple of different inputs to the programme; it's pretty obvious that SS3b2 is a good thing for very little additional effort.
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
Everyone in this sim should be playing by the same rules, so it really boils down to whether we use SS2 or SS3b2. While I mentioned the possibility of using both, that was more to give people the option if they so wanted it. But no one's going for that, and I suspect it's for a very simple reason; It's somewhat shady to have some players going by one set of rules, and other players using another.
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