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Lacking any women on the boards, I dare say it's just more socially acceptable to have pictures of attractive women than some of the stranger things that could be mentioned.
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I can do the same to Shady Lady if you really want.
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I just know we have at least one player who'd rather not have that kind of image pop up at him when he comes by to check on your news.
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
Submarine I-401, 15 nm off the coast of Tempurung Island.
July 13, 1941
Miyuki looked at the dark evening sky to the south. The storm clouds she spotted to the southwest were moving towards them. It would only be a matter of time before it would reach the I-401.
Miyuki glanced down at the watch around her right wrist. "We'll be submerging in 40 minutes," she told the XO.
"Understood," the XO replied. He went back inside to prepare the submarine.
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An extremely speedy transit of the South China Sea
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no doubt well photographed by the reconnaissance aircraft of several nations.
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This is turning into an illuminating exercise.
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
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no doubt well photographed by the reconnaissance aircraft of several nations.
We'll just submerge for a short period of time when a plane wants to fly over the submarine so they will only have a lot of pics from longe range. Of course, being so big, even at long range a lot can be seen on the submarine.
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This is turning into an illuminating exercise.
Exercise? What exercise? Who said anything about an exercise?
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I'm certain that the Dutch will wait until the transit of the Sunda Strait. The general shallowness will force the transit to be made surfaced, and the chance of running aground high, particularly without the latest Dutch charts.
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
"... which we don't. Sunda it is then. The Dutch are friendlier than the British anyway."
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The Dutch have deliberately maintained generally friendly relations with Japan, despite the alliances.
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given the shallow depths of the sea, I doubt a sub could easily loose aerial escort.
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Sunda straits themselves are shallow, with currents, but the charts would be commercially available to encourage merchants to stop in Batavia, not Singapore.
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The straits are fairly well fortified with guns from 280mm and down, with MTBs handy and can be rapidly mined, so hostile wartime passage is not greatly feared.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Rooijen10" (Nov 26th 2011, 10:43am)
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
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I expect the Dutch to go "Geez! That old wheely bin again! Why can't the Japanese send something newer and more exiting our way!!"
To a certain extent that is true. Monitoring the transit of each SATSUMA vessel may be good practice..but does get a bit humdrum. Especially a single craft- a larger group would have combatants shadowing. Standard practice would reasonably include Photos would be taken and eventually checked against earlier information to check for refits/new variants, but it wouldn't be a rush job.
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I get the impression that it is possible to run just below the surface, but planes should still be able track the dark shadow of the submarine with ease.
Thats my impression/recollection as well, at least for the first 100 feet or so. I've had trouble finding good depth maps of the DEI, but much of the north end is shallow, with much of the Karimata Strait region seems to be 75feet or less. Google Earth ranges from -50 to -140 in the area. overall not a good hiding place for Subs.
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And it helps a lot that there is this big island (Sangiang) in the narrowest part of the strait between Sumatra and Java. Anything going through there would either get a taste of the 280mm guns or hit a mine or get hit by a plane or run into the island.
Islands complicated my life when I was deciding on where to put fortifications, as they create a dead zones. So I wound up putting guns on both sides and on an island. As late as Q2/41 they were emplacing the last howitzers to finish the plan- admittedly a couple years later than intended. Only 7 places are incomplete in DEI, and all those have the basics done, and all the MTBs were deployed on schedule.
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Originally posted by Kaiser Kirk
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Originally posted by Rooijen10
I get the impression that it is possible to run just below the surface, but planes should still be able track the dark shadow of the submarine with ease.
Thats my impression/recollection as well, at least for the first 100 feet or so. I've had trouble finding good depth maps of the DEI, but much of the north end is shallow, with much of the Karimata Strait region seems to be 75feet or less. Google Earth ranges from -50 to -140 in the area. overall not a good hiding place for Subs.
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
2) Would not running this passage submerged be considered, at best, suspect? Or at worse, hostile?
2a)Also, considering it's a restricted waterway with decently dense merchant and military traffic, rather dangerous?
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Originally posted by Kaiser Kirk
Unusual, but not greatly more hostile than usual. Foolish however, as periscope navigaton of a restricted waterway with submerged hazards would be considerably more dangerous than surfaced.
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Originally posted by BruceDuncan
Unless, of course, the I-401 has an iincredibly high submerged speed and endurance.
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Originally posted by ShinRa_Inc
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Originally posted by Kaiser Kirk
Unusual, but not greatly more hostile than usual. Foolish however, as periscope navigaton of a restricted waterway with submerged hazards would be considerably more dangerous than surfaced.
This is more what I meant by Dangerous...not so much that he'd be shot at (though, that would be a realistic risk, I'd say), but that he'd be run over by a stray merchant, as historically was not uncommon for a submerged (or even surfaced) submarine traversing shipping lanes.
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Originally posted by BruceDuncan
Unless, of course, the I-401 has an iincredibly high submerged speed and endurance.
The last time the sentoku's came up, the only explanation was "Snorkel"...which still limits the ship's speed to around 10 knots, iirc.
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