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April:
Navy news:
The Scout Cruiser which was built in the Philippines is finished. The subsequent testing will take place in the South China Sea. After commissioning, the ship should be stationed on
the Spratleys and therefore be in service in the Condominium-Force.


June:
government news:
The governments of the SATSUMA-alliance met for talks in Beijing on the reorientation of the alliance after the leaving of Bharat. Finding a common consensus on the future of the
alliance appears more difficult than ever.


July:
navy news:
The governments of Italy and China negotiate about the purchase of the B-class frigates. After tough negotiations, both sides will agree to a sale. China is buying all ships of this class.
Delivery is distributed over the year 1940.

November:
government news:
On November 2nd the large-scale maneuver of the Chinese armed forces begins in the northern part of the South China Sea. The maneuver is expected to take several weeks.
On maneuvers are involved, armed forces of the Army, as well as a considerable number of units of the Air Force. Supported for the whole exercise of ships of the Imperial Chinese Navy.

To achieve a high level of realism, in different areas the chinese forces use live ammunition in the exercise.

November & December:
government news:
The unannounced maneuver of Great Britain & Canada near the chinese border, creates strong resentment between the nations. China had merely protested that there was no reference about the maneuver.
As a pure precaution, the chinese armed forces in the southern provinces set in increased readiness, as it could have been that it isn't a maneuver but the beginning of an invasion.
China sees the maneuver as a pure provocation of Great Britain & Canada. This should China be intimidated, to sign the, till there, secret negotiated agreement about the keeping of the status quo of Hong Kong. The
by GB proposed and for China NOT beneficial agreement, was a slap in the face for China. The counter-proposal submitted by China, is interpreted by the Commonwealth as dictation. In chinese eyes, only
chinese interests have simply been formulated and put into the Agreement.
"It looks , that the Europeans still not understand the mentality of us asians", says a chinese member of the government in an interview.

December
navy news:
Because of agents' reports on the transit of ships of the Commonwealth to Singapore, China stepped up its reconnaissance flights over the South China Sea. In addition, the SCSP was also instructed to increase their patrols.

December:
Army / navy news:
The coastal defenses on Dawanshan Dao and Wailingding Dao were completed. The forces of the two coastal defenses are subordinate to the navy.

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Originally posted by parador
December:
Army / navy news:
The coastal defenses on Dawanshan Dao and Wailingding Dao were completed. The forces of the two coastal defenses are subordinate to the navy.

Preparing to blockade Hong Kong, I see.

Not for a blockade. They were build to keep the shipping open. Because it will be easy for the commonwealth, to make a blockade for the harbor of Guangzhou.

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Originally posted by parador
Not for a blockade. They were build to keep the shipping open. Because it will be easy for the commonwealth, to make a blockade for the harbor of Guangzhou.

Uh... okay then. Good luck with that!

Not like coastal defenses can stop subs, or anything like that....

I don't think a set of 6 inch guns is really going to intimidate the RN if it ever comes of mind to do anything in the area. So all they really do is threaten Hong Kong, which may provoke exactly what they're supposedly to defend against.

I mean, they got two Field Armies and two Mech Corps in the Far Eastern Military District just by sending an escorted convoy to Poland while I was, um.... inviting.... the Polish Army to leave Lithuania.

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Originally posted by parador
Not for a blockade. They were build to keep the shipping open. Because it will be easy for the commonwealth, to make a blockade for the harbor of Guangzhou.

Hell, why would you want to blockade Hong Kong anyway? Just terminate the lease on the New Territories with immediate effect, citing unfriendly conduct or somesuch thing, send in a division or two to make sure the lease is terminated, and watch Kowloon and Hong Kong Island squirm.

The latter two were handed back in 1997 in OTL despite having been ceded in perpetuity to Britain since they couldn't support themselves or be defended. Speaking of which, what happened to Weihaiwei? I was running Britain in 1930, when it got handed back in OTL, and don't remember doing it. Of course, we could throw a fly in the ointment by having Lord Lugard's proposal to return Weihaiwei to China in exchange for the New Territories in perpetuity.

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Originally posted by RLBH

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Originally posted by parador
Not for a blockade. They were build to keep the shipping open. Because it will be easy for the commonwealth, to make a blockade for the harbor of Guangzhou.

Hell, why would you want to blockade Hong Kong anyway? Just terminate the lease on the New Territories with immediate effect, citing unfriendly conduct or somesuch thing, send in a division or two to make sure the lease is terminated, and watch Kowloon and Hong Kong Island squirm.

The latter two were handed back in 1997 in OTL despite having been ceded in perpetuity to Britain since they couldn't support themselves or be defended. Speaking of which, what happened to Weihaiwei? I was running Britain in 1930, when it got handed back in OTL, and don't remember doing it. Of course, we could throw a fly in the ointment by having Lord Lugard's proposal to return Weihaiwei to China in exchange for the New Territories in perpetuity.

he could terminate the lease in Weihaiwei also. The original lease was for the British having a lease there while the Japanese were in control of Port Arthur.

Also pretty much the land fortifications of Hong Kong are in the New Territories and I agree that will put the rest of the place in a precarious position, especially for the ships.

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Originally posted by RLBH

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Originally posted by parador
Not for a blockade. They were build to keep the shipping open. Because it will be easy for the commonwealth, to make a blockade for the harbor of Guangzhou.

Hell, why would you want to blockade Hong Kong anyway? Just terminate the lease on the New Territories with immediate effect, citing unfriendly conduct or somesuch thing, send in a division or two to make sure the lease is terminated, and watch Kowloon and Hong Kong Island squirm.

IC, that'd activate SAER, GNUK, and the Commonwealth defense agreements. Probably not a smart thing for China to do if they wanted to reach the end of the 1900s as a politically-independent and intact nation.

OOC, it wouldn't be permissible without approval and permission from Hood.

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Originally posted by Brockpaine

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Originally posted by RLBH

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Originally posted by parador
Not for a blockade. They were build to keep the shipping open. Because it will be easy for the commonwealth, to make a blockade for the harbor of Guangzhou.

Hell, why would you want to blockade Hong Kong anyway? Just terminate the lease on the New Territories with immediate effect, citing unfriendly conduct or somesuch thing, send in a division or two to make sure the lease is terminated, and watch Kowloon and Hong Kong Island squirm.

That'd activate SAER, GNUK, and the Commonwealth defense agreements. Probably not a smart thing for China to do if they wanted to reach the end of the 1900s as a politically-independent and intact nation.

it could present the case to the League. But we know the result to that would be. But I agree sending troops will be suicidal.

But Weihaiwei on the other hand they are IMO on their right to cancel. The lease was for British to be there while Japan have control of Port Arthur. With Japanese gone China is on their right to end that lease.

And actually he can present his case as player. What happen after that is between the players.

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Originally posted by perdedor99
But Weihaiwei on the other hand they are IMO on their right to cancel. The lease was for British to be there while Japan have control of Port Arthur. With Japanese gone China is on their right to end that lease.

Were the Japanese ever in Port Arthur in the WW timeline?

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Originally posted by Brockpaine

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Originally posted by perdedor99
But Weihaiwei on the other hand they are IMO on their right to cancel. The lease was for British to be there while Japan have control of Port Arthur. With Japanese gone China is on their right to end that lease.

Were the Japanese ever in Port Arthur in the WW timeline?

Yes 1905. After the Russo-Japanese War. And IIRC the place was run by the Japanese since then.

The Japanese ran it until when?

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
The Japanese ran it until when?

The Kwantung Peninsula was ceded to Japan as leased territory in 1905 for 25 years. Per historical information it was extended to 99 years after the Great War. I guess the lease was passed to Chosen when Japan gave their independence to then in WW. And then Chosen returned the region to China. Look at the Big Map. The region of Manchuria that used to be part of Chosen is the historical Kwantung leased territory.

My bad. The Chosen territory in Manchuria is larger than the historical one but the Kwantung Peninsula is included.

December:
navy news:
The Empire of China and Yugoslavia agreed on the purchasing of some vessels of the yugoslavian navy. The formally hand over will take place in Q1/1940. For this reason a chinese delegation travels to Yugoslavia.