Various Aircraft and Tanks

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Marek Gutkowski

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Monday, May 31st 2010, 3:44pm

Thank You.

One more of the above.

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Marek Gutkowski

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Thursday, June 3rd 2010, 2:39pm

A concept that was in my mind for some time.
Taking the idea of F-16 to the extreme.

Berlin 1973

Volksjager/Lekki Mysliwiec/Spolecne bojovník
A joint DDR CSSR PRL* project for a light fighter craft.

This plane was design when it became evident that new Soviet planes are too complex to build domestically.
It was to have better horizontal manoeuvrability that MiG-17 and higher trust to weight that MiG-19.
Armed with two 23mm cannons.

This plane is so simple and cheap that in the next projected conflict 7 of those can be build for each F-15.
A numerical superiority fighter.
Two men variant will be the next advanced trainer for the Warsaw Pact.

*German Democratic Republic/Socialistic Czechoslovakian Republic/People Republic of Poland.

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Marek Gutkowski

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Thursday, June 3rd 2010, 5:25pm

Now with this I have some issues, It looks British.

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Brockpaine

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Thursday, June 3rd 2010, 5:29pm

It looks really sharp... as in, pointy. Can you actually fit a plan in there?

Top view looks like they borrowed the wings from an A-4 Skyhawk.

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Marek Gutkowski

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Thursday, June 3rd 2010, 5:39pm

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
It looks really sharp... as in, pointy. Can you actually fit a plan in there?

Top view looks like they borrowed the wings from an A-4 Skyhawk.

"fit a plan"?

The wings are more from Hunter, but now that You pointed out the Skyhawk, yeah they do look similar.
Plus those two planes are of similar size.

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Brockpaine

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Thursday, June 3rd 2010, 5:44pm

Sorry, "fit a plane" inside.

If it's the same size as the A4 Skyhawk, well, that was a rather more chunky plane. This one looks like an F104 Lawn-dart, er, F104 Starfighter.

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Hrolf Hakonson

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Thursday, June 3rd 2010, 5:58pm

I'd compare it more to a Mirage F1 than a Skyhawk, myself.

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Marek Gutkowski

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Friday, June 4th 2010, 9:13pm

The same plane from before. Version 2.0.

This plane is to replace MiG-17 ,19 and early MiG-21.

Yes I know it looks like a F-16.
I used MiG-29 and Su-27 as base, however single engine on a plane with smooth fuselage to wing transition will give you that.(I have no idea what the correct English name for that configuration is)

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Marek Gutkowski

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Friday, June 4th 2010, 9:39pm

Czechoslovakian Air force.

Not that it matters but there are currently (5.VI,2010) 7777(seven thousands seven hundred seventy seven) treads on this board.

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Marek Gutkowski

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Saturday, June 5th 2010, 2:45am

Son of Manzo Hokkaido 1979 Wesworld

Good sign I'm watching too much anime.
Kanji from left to right, top too bottom.
Courage,Wisdom.
Grace Glory Entertainment.

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Brockpaine

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Saturday, June 5th 2010, 2:47am

"This image has been moved or deleted"...

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Red Admiral

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Saturday, June 5th 2010, 12:54pm

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This plane is to replace MiG-17 ,19 and early MiG-21.

I think I'd go with the MiG Ye-8 which was heavily based on the MiG-21. I'd drop the canard and go with reduced sweep wings instead of the delta to give a bit more manoeuverability. It's still simple and cheap like the MiG-21, but has a useful radar for making more effective intercepts, and more manoeuverability for WVR combat. A more prominent canopy with better rear visibility would also be nice.

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Brockpaine

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Saturday, June 5th 2010, 5:01pm

I've never seen the Mig Ye-8, but a quick search was sufficient to demonstrate that it looks nifty.

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Red Admiral

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Saturday, June 5th 2010, 8:28pm

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Originally posted by Brockpaine
I've never seen the Mig Ye-8, but a quick search was sufficient to demonstrate that it looks nifty.

It was a nice design but the Russians decided to go with the bigger MiG-23 which offered better ground attack capability.

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Marek Gutkowski

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Saturday, June 5th 2010, 9:14pm

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Originally posted by Red Admiral
It was a nice design but the Russians decided to go with the bigger MiG-23 which offered better ground attack capability.

It was my understanding that shorter take of was why MiG-23 was chosen.

@Vukovlad interesting APC.
Sd.Kfz. 251 with out the front part?

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Hood

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Sunday, June 6th 2010, 11:31am

The main reason the Ye-8 was abandoned was the unreliable Metskhvarishvili R-21-300 turbojet. Also its S-23 weapon system was probably a touch too early for reliable use then. It is still one of the better looking Soviet fighters IMHO.

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Marek Gutkowski

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Sunday, June 6th 2010, 6:17pm

SB-60

Fantasy nation advance trainer-light attack plane.
At third world plane.
The design process dragged on for 13 years.
In 1947 it was too be first generation jet fighter.
By the time this plane was finished only way for this it too be useful was to make it a advance trainer.
Although compared to other contemporary aircraft's it was considered a poor design. Heavy and under power, in non the less was in production for 27 years. It was robust and reliable.
With the shortage of more potent planes it was used in its original intended role as a fighter.
In those engagements it had a 4:1 kill ratio versun fixed winged combat planes.
That however spoke more of skill of its pilots that anything else.
Over 1300 build.

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Marek Gutkowski

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Sunday, June 6th 2010, 10:17pm

Zs47

No something that is not a war plane.

Top too Bottom
Civilian Acrobatic Team
Medievac plane.
Army Patrol plane
Army Basic Trainer
This was the first aircraft design by the newly created country.From start design for easy of maintenance end simplicity.
Although created in 1947 it uses 1930's technology.
This plane was used for multiple of purposes, it served in law enforcement, rescue, basic army trainer, liaison, agricultural and many others.
Produced from 1959 till 2009.
Over 7000 were made.
V-max: Circa 300km/h
V-min: 95km/h
Range: 1000km
Payload up to 500kg.
700hp engine

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Vukovlad

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Monday, June 7th 2010, 11:36am

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Originally posted by Marek Gutkowski

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Originally posted by Red Admiral
It was a nice design but the Russians decided to go with the bigger MiG-23 which offered better ground attack capability.

It was my understanding that shorter take of was why MiG-23 was chosen.

@Vukovlad interesting APC.
Sd.Kfz. 251 with out the front part?