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Trying a lighter armor fit on for size:



Skaggerak, Nordmark Fleet Carrier laid down 1945

Displacement:
29,781 t light; 30,650 t standard; 33,902 t normal; 36,504 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
806.80 ft / 787.40 ft x 91.86 ft x 32.81 ft (normal load)
245.91 m / 240.00 m x 28.00 m x 10.00 m

Armament:
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns in single mounts, 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1945 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
48 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (12x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 630 lbs / 286 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 500

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.92" / 125 mm 503.94 ft / 153.60 m 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.97" / 50 mm 503.94 ft / 153.60 m 30.41 ft / 9.27 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.39" / 10 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 159,990 shp / 119,353 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,854 tons

Complement:
1,248 - 1,623

Cost:
£11.644 million / $46.577 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 92 tons, 0.3 %
Armour: 5,437 tons, 16.0 %
- Belts: 1,549 tons, 4.6 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,116 tons, 3.3 %
- Armament: 34 tons, 0.1 %
- Armour Deck: 2,738 tons, 8.1 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 4,040 tons, 11.9 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 9,661 tons, 28.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,122 tons, 12.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 10,550 tons, 31.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
49,449 lbs / 22,430 Kg = 737.7 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 6.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 5.3 ft / 1.6 m
Roll period: 16.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 46 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.25

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.500
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.57 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 32.42 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 34
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Stern: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Average freeboard: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 96.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 200.8 %
Waterplane Area: 50,118 Square feet or 4,656 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 137 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 126 lbs/sq ft or 616 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.35
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

32 fighter aircraft (4608 tons)
32 bomber aircraft (4608 tons)

16 crated aircraft (8 fighters, 8 bombers, 400 tons)
64 lots spare parts (256 tons)

Damage Control Systems (300 tons)
Flight Control Center (128 tons)
Repair Shop (208 tons)
Radars (42 tons)

1,248 hull crew and 1,168 air group.

I think the lighter belt armor is fine, but I'd try to keep the deck armor where you had it.

That'd look like...





Skaggerak, Nordmark Fleet Carrier laid down 1945

Displacement:
31,139 t light; 32,039 t standard; 35,394 t normal; 38,078 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
806.80 ft / 787.40 ft x 91.86 ft x 32.81 ft (normal load)
245.91 m / 240.00 m x 28.00 m x 10.00 m

Armament:
8 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns in single mounts, 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1945 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
48 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (12x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 630 lbs / 286 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 500

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.92" / 125 mm 503.94 ft / 153.60 m 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
1.97" / 50 mm 503.94 ft / 153.60 m 30.41 ft / 9.27 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.39" / 10 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 4 shafts, 165,920 shp / 123,776 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 6,039 tons

Complement:
1,289 - 1,677

Cost:
£12.118 million / $48.471 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 92 tons, 0.3 %
Armour: 6,428 tons, 18.2 %
- Belts: 1,551 tons, 4.4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 1,116 tons, 3.2 %
- Armament: 34 tons, 0.1 %
- Armour Deck: 3,727 tons, 10.5 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 4,190 tons, 11.8 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 9,879 tons, 27.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 4,255 tons, 12.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 10,550 tons, 29.8 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
52,544 lbs / 23,834 Kg = 783.8 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 7.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 5.4 ft / 1.6 m
Roll period: 16.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 45 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.03
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.17

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.522
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.57 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 32.34 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 54 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 34
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Stern: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Average freeboard: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94.6 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 198.5 %
Waterplane Area: 51,168 Square feet or 4,754 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 136 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 127 lbs/sq ft or 620 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.97
- Longitudinal: 1.33
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

32 fighter aircraft (4608 tons)
32 bomber aircraft (4608 tons)

16 crated aircraft (8 fighters, 8 bombers, 400 tons)
64 lots spare parts (256 tons)

Damage Control Systems (300 tons)
Flight Control Center (128 tons)
Repair Shop (208 tons)
Radars (42 tons)

1,289 hull crew and 1,168 air group.

Quoted from "Valles"

Nordmark is unlikely to need to carry a war to Canada, true.

The carrier looks good in its latest version.

I'm not sure the all-CV striking force is an ideal future fleet without some guns to back it up. Only takes a few well placed hits to cripple or knock out those flight decks and then any opposing fleet with big guns can chew up what's left without too much hassle (in an extreme Midway-esque scenario). I agree its unlikely the Nords will be acting alone tramping across the Atlantic. Perhaps Nordmark should move to a fleet of 4 smaller 13-15,000 ton carriers (like the OTL Centaurs) to give decent capability for patrolling and escorting without being too expensive and manpower hungry. These big carriers are great for striking battlefleets but probably less than ideal escorting reinforcements to and fro across the Atlantic. Just my two-pennies worth of thought.

Quoted from "Hood"

The carrier looks good in its latest version.

I'm not sure the all-CV striking force is an ideal future fleet without some guns to back it up. Only takes a few well placed hits to cripple or knock out those flight decks and then any opposing fleet with big guns can chew up what's left without too much hassle (in an extreme Midway-esque scenario). I agree its unlikely the Nords will be acting alone tramping across the Atlantic. Perhaps Nordmark should move to a fleet of 4 smaller 13-15,000 ton carriers (like the OTL Centaurs) to give decent capability for patrolling and escorting without being too expensive and manpower hungry. These big carriers are great for striking battlefleets but probably less than ideal escorting reinforcements to and fro across the Atlantic. Just my two-pennies worth of thought.

Neither is Nordmark! But they'd need about twice the population if they wanted to maintain a properly escorted big-gun fleet element along with proportionate land forces, and the odds of an all-CV striking force working are, in their Admralty's eyes, a lot better than the odds of an all-surface fleet working.

Smaller carriers, along the scale of the currently serving Orn and Hok, weren't seriously considered because Nordmark is already feeling the pinch of increasing aircraft sizes that those two are uncomfortably cramped to operate. Jet aircraft aren't anticipated to be any smaller, so a big deck is needed to accommodate them.

Also, I'm kind of an inveterate Mahanist, so my theory is that if you destroy the enemy fleet forcing you to concentrate yourself, dealing with raiders becomes much easier.

The problem is that in WW AA has advanced much faster than in real-life. I don't think carriers have the clear cut margin over battleships right now. Provided with AA cruisers, I think battlelines still hvae more than an equal chance of defeating carrier air groups.

So, finishing the 1945Q3 report for Nordmark confirmed that I wouldn't have the tonnage available to start Skaggerak and Kattegat right away, which means that they'll probably end up happening at the same time as their new-build CA escorts.

Which means I'd better get on those, hadn't I?





Kalaallit, Nordmark Heavy Cruiser laid down 1945

Displacement:
16,806 t light; 17,615 t standard; 20,026 t normal; 21,955 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
703.00 ft / 688.98 ft x 72.18 ft x 26.25 ft (normal load)
214.28 m / 210.00 m x 22.00 m x 8.00 m

Armament:
8 - 9.45" / 240 mm guns (4x2 guns), 421.80lbs / 191.32kg shells, 1945 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (6x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1945 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
32 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3,924 lbs / 1,780 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180
8 - 24.0" / 610 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 482.28 ft / 147.00 m 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 108 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
0.98" / 25 mm 482.28 ft / 147.00 m 23.88 ft / 7.28 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 6.89" / 175 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 6.89" / 175 mm
2nd: 1.97" / 50 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.97" / 50 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm, Conning tower: 3.94" / 100 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 122,746 shp / 91,569 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,340 tons

Complement:
841 - 1,094

Cost:
£9.980 million / $39.919 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 503 tons, 2.5 %
Armour: 5,256 tons, 26.2 %
- Belts: 1,740 tons, 8.7 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 419 tons, 2.1 %
- Armament: 1,085 tons, 5.4 %
- Armour Deck: 1,949 tons, 9.7 %
- Conning Tower: 63 tons, 0.3 %
Machinery: 3,100 tons, 15.5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 7,698 tons, 38.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,220 tons, 16.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
33,096 lbs / 15,012 Kg = 78.5 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 4.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 3.7 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 15.8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 56 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.65
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.21

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.537
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.55 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.94 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.53 ft / 9.00 m
- Forecastle (15 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Stern: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Average freeboard: 25.34 ft / 7.72 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 99.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 172.9 %
Waterplane Area: 35,684 Square feet or 3,315 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 133 lbs/sq ft or 648 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.60
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Class of 3

Kalaalit
Gutland
Island

I guess the big question is the need (and utility) for a torpedo bulkhead on a ship of that size.

*checks beam*

Hmmm. You're right, that is a little slim.



Kalaallit, Nordmark Heavy Cruiser laid down 1945

Displacement:
17,209 t light; 18,026 t standard; 20,460 t normal; 22,408 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
704.20 ft / 688.98 ft x 82.02 ft x 24.61 ft (normal load)
214.64 m / 210.00 m x 25.00 m x 7.50 m

Armament:
8 - 9.45" / 240 mm guns (4x2 guns), 421.80lbs / 191.32kg shells, 1945 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (6x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1945 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
32 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3,924 lbs / 1,780 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180
8 - 24.0" / 610 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 440.94 ft / 134.40 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead:
0.98" / 25 mm 440.94 ft / 134.40 m 22.21 ft / 6.77 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 5.91" / 150 mm
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.59" / 15 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 123,898 shp / 92,428 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,382 tons

Complement:
854 - 1,111

Cost:
£10.105 million / $40.422 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 503 tons, 2.5 %
Armour: 4,957 tons, 24.2 %
- Belts: 1,450 tons, 7.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 357 tons, 1.7 %
- Armament: 981 tons, 4.8 %
- Armour Deck: 2,169 tons, 10.6 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 3,129 tons, 15.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,371 tons, 40.9 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,251 tons, 15.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
37,482 lbs / 17,002 Kg = 88.9 x 9.4 " / 240 mm shells or 5.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 4.5 ft / 1.4 m
Roll period: 16.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.52
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.25

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.515
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.40 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.32 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 57 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 56
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.81 ft / 10.00 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 29.53 ft / 9.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Stern: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Average freeboard: 27.04 ft / 8.24 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 206.0 %
Waterplane Area: 39,710 Square feet or 3,689 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 132 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 139 lbs/sq ft or 679 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.66
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Class of 3

Kalaalit
Gutland
Island

Checking previous CA classes in Nordish service, I find them lacking TDS arrangements, which I suppose should be indicative of the NRN's practice. Removing that cuts weight down by about 1,700 tons, to ~15,500. Personally, I think the increased survivability is worth it, but with established precedent going the other way...

Precedent shouldn't be a straitjacket. Nordish design philosophy can evolve.

True.

Dialing back to 21cm main guns also coincidentally removes about 2,000 tons, and gets crew complement under the seven hundred and fifty my plans allowed...

Absolute minimalist design looks like this:




Kalaallit, Nordmark Heavy Cruiser laid down 1945

Displacement:
13,284 t light; 13,901 t standard; 16,013 t normal; 17,702 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
670.20 ft / 656.17 ft x 65.62 ft x 24.61 ft (normal load)
204.28 m / 200.00 m x 20.00 m x 7.50 m

Armament:
8 - 8.27" / 210 mm guns (4x2 guns), 282.57lbs / 128.17kg shells, 1945 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
12 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (6x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1945 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
32 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (8x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 2,810 lbs / 1,275 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180
8 - 24.0" / 610 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 4.92" / 125 mm 419.95 ft / 128.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 98 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.91" / 150 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 5.91" / 150 mm
2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.59" / 15 mm 0.98" / 25 mm
3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -

- Armour deck: 2.95" / 75 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 3 shafts, 108,196 shp / 80,714 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 5,000nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3,801 tons

Complement:
711 - 925

Cost:
£7.965 million / $31.859 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 363 tons, 2.3 %
Armour: 3,614 tons, 22.6 %
- Belts: 1,133 tons, 7.1 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 806 tons, 5.0 %
- Armour Deck: 1,675 tons, 10.5 %
- Conning Tower: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 2,732 tons, 17.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 6,325 tons, 39.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,728 tons, 17.0 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 1.6 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
26,205 lbs / 11,886 Kg = 92.7 x 8.3 " / 210 mm shells or 2.6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
Metacentric height 3.2 ft / 1.0 m
Roll period: 15.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 62 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.70
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.40

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.529
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 29.14 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 56 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 44
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3.28 ft / 1.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.53 ft / 9.00 m
- Forecastle (18 %): 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Quarterdeck (18 %): 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Stern: 24.61 ft / 7.50 m
- Average freeboard: 25.40 ft / 7.74 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 75.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 171.1 %
Waterplane Area: 30,660 Square feet or 2,848 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 131 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 118 lbs/sq ft or 578 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.93
- Longitudinal: 2.00
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Class of 3

Kalaalit
Gutland
Island

Of the several options presented, I think that your minimalist variant is probably the best choice. Not only does is meet your manning requirements but it is far less expensive for a carrier escort. Personally, I would try to adjust the trim to get stability up to 1.10 but that is a minimal nitpick.

The freeboard could probably come down on that one - which would improve stability, I'd think.

Quoted from "The Rock Doctor"

The freeboard could probably come down on that one - which would improve stability, I'd think.

Structurally or seakeeping wise, sure. But I try to be consistent about deck heights in ships I design, and I've been going with 2.5 meters for Nordmark. Besides, the stability 'issue' is me forgetting to check trim, rather than anything actually problematic.

I think I agree on the 8x210mm cruiser: best option, really. A lot of people think the 8" cruiser is dead, but they can still very much overmatch a traditional 6"-armed CL.

As CAs go, it seems like decent value for money. My current CL isn't that much smaller. Tis something to think about.

...aaaaaand a swing at a 'fleet escort destroyer'.



DD46, Nordmark Fleet Destroyer laid down 1946

Displacement:
2,437 t light; 2,654 t standard; 3,066 t normal; 3,395 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
403.25 ft / 393.70 ft x 39.37 ft x 16.40 ft (normal load)
122.91 m / 120.00 m x 12.00 m x 5.00 m

Armament:
8 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (4x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1946 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1946 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
Weight of broadside 356 lbs / 162 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 750
8 - 24.0" / 610 mm above water torpedoes

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 50,773 shp / 37,876 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 2,500nm at 24.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 740 tons

Complement:
205 - 267

Cost:
£2.174 million / $8.698 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 53 tons, 1.7 %
Machinery: 1,265 tons, 41.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 993 tons, 32.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 629 tons, 20.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 125 tons, 4.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
1,249 lbs / 566 Kg = 30.7 x 4.3 " / 110 mm shells or 0.5 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.21
Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 12.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 79 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.59
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.58

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.422
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.87 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Forecastle (15 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Stern: 19.69 ft / 6.00 m
- Average freeboard: 20.95 ft / 6.39 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 155.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 102.4 %
Waterplane Area: 10,046 Square feet or 933 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 99 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 41 lbs/sq ft or 202 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 4.15
- Overall: 0.61
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather