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I edited the post to change it to a DC-3 instead of a 2...forgot that the 2 had already been introduced. Wiley Post is busy with his pressure suit tests and will not be able to compete. Also, pending early flight testing results, Boeing is also considering entering its Model 294. It will first have to determine if the airfields along the route can handle the size of the aircraft...

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It will first have to determine if the airfields along the route can handle the size of the aircraft...

Probably won't be as difficult as for the CAC entry with floats...

Ok I've got a full and proper entry ready.



FMA I.Ae 4R Racer
Based on the FMA I.Ae 4 Courier
Dimensions: span 10.6m; length 9.08m; height 3.57m
Structure: Metal monocoque fuselage, metal wing with aluminium spars, wooden ailerons and flaps with fabric covering. Rudder and elevators aluminium framed with plywood covering. Retractable main undercarriage with a non-retractable castoring tail wheel
Weights: Empty 2666lbs; maximum take-off 4082lbs
Powerplant: two 1000hp Ripon R-1000-010RS radials
Performance: max speed 271mph; service ceiling 26,500ft; range 1210 miles
Capacity: Pilot and navigator in enclosed cockpit forward; Elsan and small bunk behind
Equipment: full controls and navigation equipment including two receiver/transmitter sets, HF/DF set and Sperry Gyroscopic Automatic Pilot

Will be flown by Major General Carron-Gomez and his navigator will be Lieutenant de Aero S. Navarro.

A private individual Senor Torredo will be entering an FMA I.Ae 1 Guarani cabin monoplane (top left picture) with his brother as navigator and a third passenger, his wife as a backup pilot.

Dimensions: span 12.8m; length 8m; height 2.48m; wing area 23m sq
Weights: empty 815kg; max take-off 1,390kg
Powerplant: one 200hp Wright J-4A radial or 235hp FMA SR-7-1 radial
Performance: max speed 120mph; service ceiling 14,000ft; range 621 miles
Capacity: pilot and three passengers in fully enclosed cabin
Structure: steel-tube fuselage truss with metal forward fuselage and aft doped fabric covering. Wings have wooden spars and ribs with wooden leading edge and fabric covering.
Equipment: cabin is heated and provided with two air ventilation inlets; cabin is well furnished and sound-proofed. Comprehensive instrumentation and compass are fitted as standard.

RA - thanks for the Bellanca stats.

Hood - I like that I.Ae 4...

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Bangkok Aero Manufacturing has decided to enter their Model 114F, piloted by aviatrix Sirisoon Chandrapa.

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Originally posted by The Rock Doctor
Gavin, are those historical stats for the SM.79? They're greatly different from the single source I have on hand (435 kph and 1,900 range respectively). I'm just not sure how reliable this book is.

Heh, I noticed that too that puts the max speed at what 378 mph? For a bomber design of the mid 30's? Even with the 5 year rule and the fact that its striped down thats faster than most 1938-ish designs like the Tupolev SB-2 (280mph/450kmh), the historical Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 (267mph/430kmh), or even the North American B-25 Mitchell (272mph/438kmh) not to mention the other various non-historical designs presented thus far.

Well that depends...are they using the Daimler-Benz DB 601 engines yet in German bombers?

Ju-88, 1936, 292 mph/470 kph
Ju-188, 1942, 311mph/500 kph
Dornier Do 17E-1, 1937, 220 mph/355 kph
Dornier Do 217B-4, 1938, 295 mph/475 kph (prototype 348 mph/560 kph with DB 601 A inline engines)

This is from multipul sources but I doubt the numbers will change much.

Isotta-Fraschini Asso 1000 Engines

W18
Bore: 150mm
Stroke: 180mm
Displacement: 57L
Weight: around 800kg without reduction gear
Power: 1400hp - 2300hp depending on model and year. 1800hp running reliably in 1931
Engine Speed: 2200rpm
Fuel consumption: around 200g/hp-hr

NB. Historical stats and engine

Frontal area is similar to the Alfa-Romeo 126s it replaces. They do weigh a lot more though.

Its hardly surprising that the speed gets a bump when you have about twice as much power.

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Well that depends...are they using the Daimler-Benz DB 601 engines yet in German bombers?

Heck, no! The 601 hasn't even been prototyped yet, the 600 is still in it's infancy.

If that´s true, what´s the drawback? There must be one as I´d otherwise cannot understand why the Italians had so much trouble building powerful engines in WW2 and finally licence-build german designs....

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Originally posted by Red Admiral
Isotta-Fraschini Asso 1000 Engines

W18
Bore: 150mm
Stroke: 180mm
Displacement: 57L
Weight: around 800kg without reduction gear
Power: 1400hp - 2300hp depending on model and year. 1800hp running reliably in 1931
Engine Speed: 2200rpm
Fuel consumption: around 200g/hp-hr

NB. Historical stats and engine

Frontal area is similar to the Alfa-Romeo 126s it replaces. They do weigh a lot more though.

Its hardly surprising that the speed gets a bump when you have about twice as much power.

It is and it is not true. The Isotta-Fraschini Asso 1000 engine was a 1000 hp class engine (that's where the 1000 comes from) that was used as the basis for a racing plane engine (where it got up to 1800 horsepower in the late 1920s but had all the problems associated with aircraft racing engines such as exploding, breaking down, etc). The engine was later developed as a MAS boat engine with the power ranges RA mentions, but that was as a powerboat engine, NOT as an aircraft engine.

Weight listed seems awfully low, since the Jumo 211 which only had 12 150mm cylinders and a 165mm stroke weighed over 700 kg in most versions, and the DB-603 (another 12-cylinder engine) which had a bigger bore (162mm) but a similar stroke of 180mm had a dry weight of 920 kg.

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If that´s true, what´s the drawback?

It was massive. A 57L engine is quite large. SuperAero requested radial engines on the designs for no apparent reason which basically caused the engine manufacturers to start from scratch after having perfected the supercharged inline engine. Suffice to say Italy is going with inlines this time. My strong dislike of radials is one of the reasons. The reason for low-powered radials was of insufficient raw material because of sanctions and only 87oct fuel. Alfa Romeo had the most powerful radial engine of the time in 1938 with the 135 model giving just under 2000hp on 100oct. Its dimensions compare favourably with the R-2800

The 1000 was a standard 750 bored out from 140x170. THe weight of the 750 was 663kg for a 47L engine. The absence of reduction gears and supercharger means light weight.

The version used in MAS weighed 1370kg with the obvious addition of a lot of gearing and stronger components.

The same engine was being built in the 60s and 70s by CRM but as a turbodiesel. It produced 1840hp and weighed about 1700kg.

Also from Italy is another probable entry, the Magni-Jona J.10. However it would have to be either the 3rd or 4th prototype. It wouldn't be good for the company to lose such an aircraft, or much of a publicity cue if it breaks. They'll have to continue to look for sponsorship.

[This is a historical aircraft from 1934 redrawn by me from another drawing.]

Hmm no entries from the Phillipines (Martin B-10?) or Japan. Manzo not coming to the party?

RLHB, will there be any different British entries or should I use the historical ones?

*Looks at location of finish point*
... I don't think so...
(read: not sure what to send to use in that race...)

Hey it's Manzo, he will not end up in Australia for sure. Just give him any interesting long range Japanese plane. It sure will scare half the world!

Alright... going to check the arsenal...

Current Race Entries

Siam:
Fw 42B-1
F/O Suan Sukhserm will be the pilot, while Flt Lt. Chan Nuat-Kheo will be aircraft commander

Model 114F,
piloted by aviatrix Sirisoon Chandrapa


Brazil:
EMB-35


Dutch:
Fokker XXXVI

Fokker T.V


USA:
Douglas DC-2

Boeing 247

L-10 Electra
Ms. Amelia Earhart

Northrop Gamma-2G
Jacqueline Cochran


Russia:
ANT-31


Italy:
Savoia-Marchetti 79quater

Magni-Jona J.10


Mexico:
B-1 Condor (DC-3 Bomber)


Australia:
Lockheed Atair
Charles Kingford Smith

Lockheed Sirus


India:
AA-9
Pilot-Captain Mulayam Shukla, commanding

Toofani C


Atlantis:
Spartan B-1 Vanquish

Accrisius


South Africa:
Brenner Comet
Gustaf Brenner, two mechanics, Alfred Humpel and Paul Costey, and a navigator, Raymont Brugger.

DeBroek FD-2
test pilot Cpt. Henry Johan, navigator Thomas Kogg and mechanic Benjamin Kleber


Argentina:
FMA I.Ae 4R Racer
Major General Carron-Gomez and his navigator will be Lieutenant de Aero S. Navarro

FMA I.Ae 1 Guarani
Senor Torredo with his brother as navigator and a third passenger, his wife as a backup pilot


Japan:
???
Onishi "Crash" Manzo!!!


Philipines?

Canada?

Chile?

Chosen?

Denmark?

France?

Germany?

Iberia?

Nordmark?

United Kingdom?

Other?

Might as well go with something of reasonable size so Big M and a couple of his friends will be flying a Mitsubishi G3M1.

Beware! With that plane Manzo´s next landing will include a big BANG!