The British Empire: Q1/1934 Report

The Chosen One

Saturday, March 17th 2007, 7:17am

Heres a list of nations and their factory tally's to put things into perspective...

Britain: 50
Russia: 33
Atlantis: 31 (+1 with Byzantine factory)
Germany: 31
United States: 30
Japan: 27 (+1 Pacifica)
SAE: 26 (+1)
France: 26 (+1 at Phnom Pehn)
Iberia: 24
Italy: 22
Nordmark: 20
Greece: 15
Netherlands: 15
Denmark: 11
India: 11
Philippines: 11
PRJ: 11
Canada: 10
Australia: 10
Argentina: 7
Brazil: 7
Chile: 7
Turkey: 6
Peru: 4
Colombia: 4
Chosen: 4
Formosa: 4
Mexico: 3
Persia: 3
Siam: 2

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ShinRa_Inc

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 7:34am

To stir things up, that's...

NATO - 134
FAR - 91
The Commonwealth - 70
SATSUMA - 61
AAMN - 61
ABCCP (South America) - 29

Also worth considering is the existing non-factory infrastructure (ie, drydocks and slipways), which I believe the US and UK have a sizable advantage over the runners up in that field, as well.

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Red Admiral

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 10:15am

Its not the sanest way to run a construction program. Staggering the construction a bit would make more sense.

Year >>>
3BB + 2CV
2BB + 1CV
2BB + 1CV
2BB + 1CV

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ShinRa_Inc

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 10:33am

...If there's still treaty considerations, then it's a matter of replacment dictated by the block obsolence of the R and QE classes. You'd want them replaced as soon as possible, no? If there aren't (I'm sure someone will check the math), but I'm not entirely certain the UK can't throw down another 4-5 BBs a year if needed.

If RLBH gets serious UK can turn all it's factories to shipbuilding, and crank out 50k tons a quarter. I'll rephrase that; In other words, in one quarter, he can pump out enough raw materials to complete a 50k light ship that's going to take them 6 years to complete anyway.

OTL, there would be crewing and financial concerns, but those don't apply as "Rules" here, just common sense (at the moment)

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Red Admiral

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 10:41am

That was from a common sense point of view.

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ShinRa_Inc

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 10:43am

I figure he's looking at it as "Why 2 BB a year, when I can do 4?"

Then it's not only staggered, but staggering. (:

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Hrolf Hakonson

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 10:45am

This is about as fast as the UK can build things, the current shipbuilding program is eating resources slightly faster than the UK can produce them (just looking at the number of tons used vs the number of factories that the UK has). It's sustainable through 1934 with the UK still doing some infrastructure work because of a big stock of tonnage already built up, that will be gone by the end of 1934.

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ShinRa_Inc

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 10:52am

RE: The British Empire: Q1/1934 Report

Here's something else that may have gotten lost in the shuffle, btw;

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Originally posted by RLBH

19th Light Cruiser Squadron deployed to Gibraltar with effect 30 January 1934.
2nd Battle Squadron, 1st Light Cruiser Squadron, 18th Light Cruiser Squadron, 15th Destroyer Flotilla and 17th Destroyer Flotilla deployed to Malta with effect 2 February 1934.
16th Light Cruiser Squadron deployed to Bermuda as of 3 February 1934.
10th Sloop Flotilla deployed to Bermuda with effect 5 February 1934.
Fast Battle Squadron, Fast Carrier Squadron, 14th Destroyer Flotilla deployed to Jamaica with effect 6 February 1934
11th Sloop Flotilla deployed to Namibia with effect 15 February 1934.

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Red Admiral

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 10:54am

Must be migrating south for warmer climes.

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thesmilingassassin

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 11:42am

....and freindly neighbours!

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Red Admiral

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 11:47am

I don't actually think theres enough room in Valletta for all the QEs and those cruisers.

Theres lots of free space for them in Mar Grande outside Taranto.

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ShinRa_Inc

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 12:04pm

I highly doubt they're all tied up on a pier at once. Keeping them rotated efficiently might be tricky, but that's why you have all those flag lieutenants darting around underfoot for.

But if the Italians are offering the Commonwealth another port to fly the Union Jack from, I'm sure we can figure something out...

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Rooijen10

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 12:11pm

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But if the Italians are offering the Commonwealth another port to fly the Union Jack from, I'm sure we can figure something out...

Don't give him weird ideas. He might suddenly raise the Italian flag over that harbour and confiscate the British warships present.

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alt_naval

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 12:20pm

Suda Bay in Crete is available and a nice big dry dock and facilities to boot.

Cheers,

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Rooijen10

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 12:44pm

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Suda Bay in Crete is available and a nice big dry dock and facilities to boot.

Yeah, right! You'll suddenly raise the Greek flag over the harbour and confiscate the British warships present.

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Swamphen

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 2:22pm

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ABCCP (South America) - 29

...
...er wait what? ABCCP?

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RLBH

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Saturday, March 17th 2007, 2:41pm

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Originally posted by alt_naval
Suda Bay in Crete is available and a nice big dry dock and facilities to boot.

Cheers,

Might be an idea to send some of the ships over there, come to think of it. Malta's a small island and those ships probably double the population. Maybe triple.

As a footnote, I don't intend sustaining this rate of construction, even if I could. Some of the long-running programs will be stopping in short order. But you don't know that