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The question is, can you train pilots, and do you have enough fuel?

Considering the power of Iberia, they can train their pilots better than Mexico.

As for fuel. You do not need a lot of fuel when you fly your plane over Cuba for defense. In the mean time, the Mexican planes will be burning up their entire supply with all their long-ranged sorties to get to Cuba.

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Excellent reasons why Mexico should be looking North towards the majority of it's former lands, not East where it never had lands !

Yes, I already told him a few times that he should recapture the Alamo and raise the Mexican flag there.

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*Imagines Patton reenacting Donovan's March with the 3rd Army.*

Donovan's March? Not familiar with that... but that is probably because I am Dutch.

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And the Germans came, oh so close to victory... Tis true that the manufacturing facilities are across the ocean, but fortunately Atlatis (FAR) is so conviniently placed.

Right, and the Germans had a much better chance of victory than Mexico would have when attacking Cuba, even if Iberia has to deal with a AANM vs FAR conflict.

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Would they care about Cuba?

Probably more than the other areas they hold in South and Central Ameria (except for Panama and the Canal there).

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Iberia might have the ships, but will they have air superority over the beaches? That was key both at D-Day and Operation Sealion. Only at Yucatan might AANM be able to achive air superority.

As, Perdedor stated, Iberia can launch a land invasion from Central America. Looking now at the map, I really think you're too focussed on CUba to see Mexico's defeat coming out of Guatemala and Berlize. My guess would be that AANM can acchieve air superiority over everything east of the Mexican Canal and that is probably more than enough to begin with.

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SEAR would dominate SATSUMA.

Doesn't change the fact that it will be bloody.

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By spending only 41,000 tons there is more ships being built than by probably most of SATSUMA combined (5 BB, 3 CV, 8 CL, 8 DD, 8 escorts, 20 subs and 8 MTBs).

The BBs, CVs, etc. is a list GB is going to build? If that is the case then it is unlikely that GB will probably build more ships than most of SATSUMA combined as Japan will start the construction a few more ships than that...

... of course I will not brag about the massive sizes of those extremely powerful naval vessels...

*cough cough* Marders *cough cough*

I like the fact that people are underestimating Mexico.

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Considering the power of Iberia, they can train their pilots better than Mexico.

If there is one thing that Mexico does well, that's training pilots. Considering that Iberia is just now getting a somewhat modern air force...

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As for fuel. You do not need a lot of fuel when you fly your plane over Cuba for defense. In the mean time, the Mexican planes will be burning up their entire supply with all their long-ranged sorties to get to Cuba.

its not like Im flying to Berlin, and considering that the US got half its oil in WWII from Mexico, I don't think I'll be running out of fuel anytime soon.

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Right, and the Germans had a much better chance of victory than Mexico would have when attacking Cuba, even if Iberia has to deal with a AANM vs FAR conflict.

Right, and the British where a considerably tougher oponent.

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As, Perdedor stated, Iberia can launch a land invasion from Central America. Looking now at the map, I really think you're too focussed on CUba to see Mexico's defeat coming out of Guatemala and Berlize. My guess would be that AANM can acchieve air superiority over everything east of the Mexican Canal and that is probably more than enough to begin with.

Launching a massive ground assault across jungles and mountains? I'm sure the Iberians are smarter than that.

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I like the fact that people are underestimating Mexico.

Well, it is either that or you are overestimating Mexico's abilities.

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Considering that Iberia is just now getting a somewhat modern air force...

That of course doesn't mean that the Mexican pilots are better than the Iberian ones.

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its not like Im flying to Berlin, and considering that the US got half its oil in WWII from Mexico, I don't think I'll be running out of fuel anytime soon.

Oh yes you will. Mexico is much more ambitious than the US.

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Launching a massive ground assault across jungles and mountains? I'm sure the Iberians are smarter than that.

... just as smart as the Germans when they went through the Ardennes in 1940.

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Originally posted by Rooijen10
The BBs, CVs, etc. is a list GB is going to build? If that is the case then it is unlikely that GB will probably build more ships than most of SATSUMA combined as Japan will start the construction a few more ships than that...

... of course I will not brag about the massive sizes of those extremely powerful naval vessels...

Which is exactly why Atlantis pulled out of the treaty. With Japans departure some nations merely followed the bits they liked about the treaty while Japan openly stated their intentions. The number of ships Britain is building is nothing to sneeze at and their commonwealth partners too are building ships.

Meanwhile, as Japan wastes her resources on meglamaniacal designs Atlantis can lay down a program of equal size in less time building ships that still have a fighting chance against Japans "money pits".

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Meanwhile, as Japan wastes her resources on meglamaniacal designs Atlantis can lay down a program of equal size in less time building ships that still have a fighting chance against Japans "money pits".

That sounds like an invitation to me, but it is unlikely that Japan will be heading into the Atlantic and into an Atlantean trap.
... and yes, this one is truly a megalomaniacal design, isn't it?

BTW, Japan's version will be based on the Long Lance and will be carrying a Long Lance.

Maybe y'all need to spend a little more time doing 1936 and a little less time predicting it.

Sounds like a good idea to me. Of course, there's a few things going on that are still stuck in mid-late summer (Northern Hemisphere) 1935, but other than that....

Well I am ready for ´36

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Maybe y'all need to spend a little more time doing 1936 and a little less time predicting it

I am! It's all part of a grand deception campaign to distract attention from the Pacific, so I can launch the Greater Australian Co-Prosperity Sphere! Mwhahahah!!!

*cue Imperial March*

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Launching a massive ground assault across jungles and mountains? I'm sure the Iberians are smarter than that.

Thats where the Air Cav comes in...

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Originally posted by Rooijen10

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*Imagines Patton reenacting Donovan's March with the 3rd Army.*

Donovan's March? Not familiar with that... but that is probably because I am Dutch.

I got the name wrong, actually. Alexander Doniphan was a militia colonel during the US-Mexican War, who took a band of frontiersmen volunteers from Missouri to Santa Fe with Kearny, then captured Chihuahua, having beaten two rather larger and more "professional" Mexican army units (they actually wore uniforms) on the way. Altogether, Doniphan and his men marched more distance than Xenophon's Ten Thousand and captured more territory than General Scott's much larger army.

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Originally posted by The Rock Doctor
Maybe y'all need to spend a little more time doing 1936 and a little less time predicting it.

Very true.

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Originally posted by Red Admiral

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Launching a massive ground assault across jungles and mountains? I'm sure the Iberians are smarter than that.

Thats where the Air Cav comes in...

With this design? maybe in the late 40's mefinks.

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Originally posted by Rooijen10
That sounds like an invitation to me, but it is unlikely that Japan will be heading into the Atlantic and into an Atlantean trap.
... and yes, this one is truly a megalomaniacal design, isn't it?

BTW, Japan's version will be based on the Long Lance and will be carrying a Long Lance.

Hope you have alot of tenders to go with them, they certainly won't have the sea legs.

Tenders? Why? It's not like I am going to use them to attack Cleito... or Vladivostock.

They wont? Then whats the point...

Ohhh!!! Targets! Big, fat, slow targets!

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Originally posted by Rooijen10
Tenders? Why? It's not like I am going to use them to attack Cleito... or Vladivostock.

They won't likely attack much really. The Marders overgrown cousin, the Molch, managed 42 losses out of 56 sorties with zero targets sunk. The allies captured several Marders durring the later part of the war and were anything but impressed.

Marders only sank 7 vessels, none larger than a mine sweeper and damaged the Polish cruiser Conrad. It took roughly 300 Marders produced to achieive this number, not a very cost effective weapon.

Precisely. So why waste materials on Tenders?

Well if your going to waist materials on this type of sub, you could at least attempt to extend their range of uselessness