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If we were talking about historical designs for heavy cruisers, yes, perhaps for a ship this time and size, the belt might be a bit too thick, but this is Wesworld, just check some of the other CAs in service: Zara, 1927, 5.91in Yukino, 1924, 6in Ladon, 1929, 5.91in I think 6in is not too much, especially when you might face those huge Japanese CAs with lots of heavy guns. And about the conning tower, they don´t need to be identical, just that I´m used to sim my ships that way. And don´t worry, ...
Yep, as Hrolf said, the speed at least should be 32 knots, you can easily aim for something like this: CA, laid down 1932 Displacement: 11.034 t light; 11.500 t standard; 12.710 t normal; 13.678 t full load Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught 574,14 ft / 557,74 ft x 65,62 ft x 21,33 ft (normal load) 175,00 m / 170,00 m x 20,00 m x 6,50 m Armament: 9 - 8,00" / 203 mm guns (3x3 guns), 256,00lbs / 116,12kg shells, 1932 Model Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes) on centrelin...
What you´ve here is similar to my problem with the R class when I was the british player. In a modern war these ships can still be valuable units, however very limited by their low speed. I was going to scrap the Rs and re-use the guns, either in new turrets or in the old ones rebuilt. That´s perhaps an option you could consider, if your resources are limited, for their replacements. I don´t think they´re worth a minor refit or rebuilt, specially in Weswolrd, were many modern BBs are entering or...
Another couple designs, or at least two variants on the same hull. As I said, IMO, either of these two versions would have a good fire power and adequate protection and speed for a ship her size and role. Note: I have reduced the range, seaboat quality (after all they´re mediterranean vessels) and steadiness to increase the stability, armour and firepower. 12in Version, laid down 1931 Displacement: 28.393 t light; 30.000 t standard; 31.863 t normal; 33.354 t full load Dimensions: Length overall ...
The only armour is the turrets and gun shields. She´s completely unrealistic, too much power and 8 shafts! VFBC31 MkIV, Greek Funny BC laid down 1931 Displacement: 28.898 t light; 30.000 t standard; 32.618 t normal; 34.712 t full load Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught 816,70 ft / 810,00 ft x 81,00 ft x 29,00 ft (normal load) 248,93 m / 246,89 m x 24,69 m x 8,84 m Armament: 4 - 14,00" / 356 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.372,00lbs / 622,33kg shells, 1931 Model Breech loading guns in turr...
Think of an oversized Corageous, built in the 30s, same hull. VFBC31 Mk III, Greek Battlecruiser laid down 1931 Displacement: 28.672 t light; 30.000 t standard; 32.618 t normal; 34.712 t full load Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught 815,64 ft / 810,00 ft x 81,00 ft x 29,00 ft (normal load) 248,61 m / 246,89 m x 24,69 m x 8,84 m Armament: 4 - 14,00" / 356 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.372,00lbs / 622,33kg shells, 1931 Model Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes) on centreline ends,...
Just for fun, same ship, with minor modifications and transon stern. VFBC31 MkII, Greek Battlecruiser laid down 1931 Displacement: 28.744 t light; 30.000 t standard; 32.618 t normal; 34.712 t full load Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught 815,29 ft / 810,00 ft x 81,00 ft x 29,00 ft (normal load) 248,50 m / 246,89 m x 24,69 m x 8,84 m Armament: 9 - 12,01" / 305 mm guns (3x3 guns), 865,70lbs / 392,67kg shells, 1931 Model Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes) on centreline en...
Quite different to the ship I posted yesterday. Just a crazy idea. Althought few vessels would be able to cacht her. VFBC31, Greek Battlecruiser laid down 1931 Displacement: 28.744 t light; 30.000 t standard; 32.618 t normal; 34.712 t full load Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught 815,29 ft / 810,00 ft x 81,00 ft x 29,00 ft (normal load) 248,50 m / 246,89 m x 24,69 m x 8,84 m Armament: 9 - 12,01" / 305 mm guns (3x3 guns), 865,70lbs / 392,68kg shells, 1931 Model Breech loading guns...
Dropping the speed 1 knot I can make one of the turrets superfiring. Also I can get another half inch of deck armor, though I have to make the main belt shorther by several feet. FBB31GR MKII, Greek Fast Battleship laid down 1931 Displacement: 28.607 t light; 30.000 t standard; 31.991 t normal; 33.584 t full load Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught 720,95 ft / 715,00 ft x 100,00 ft x 27,00 ft (normal load) 219,75 m / 217,93 m x 30,48 m x 8,23 m Armament: 9 - 12,00" / 305 mm guns ...
We´re talking about a 30000t warship here, those two vessels would be half the battleline of the greek fleet, I think even if they act as scouts they have to be well protected. I think the greeks should go for a fast BB instead of a classical BC. So perhaps this is not the most handsome of all the vessels submitted, but I think this main battery layout has some advantages. Some points of interest: - Very thick belt and turret armor. Also a more than adequate deck armor for a vessel this size. - ...
I knew I was forgetting something... I´ll edit the picture for tomorrow.
Thanks for your words, and yes I know those mounts are problematic, but at that moment I couldn´t find a better place, I was busy with the main superstructure... BTW, for the people that likes a bit more firepower, those 8 12in guns can be replaced by 6 13,4in guns without any major change to the design. The only difference is that I had to get rid of the armoured conning tower. 20000t Battleship, project SBB33c, laid down 1933 Displacement: 19.110 t light; 20.000 t standard; 21.477 t normal; 22...
I did not use the midships catapult mainly for two reasons: - I needed some place to put the boats - And I wanted to space the secondaries, putting the catapult there would mean I´d have to move those two mounts and get them too close for my taste to any of the other mounts.
I know this ship can be considered a waste of money and resources, because obviously she cannot compete against most of the vessels already in service, either in Wesworld or in the real one. She´s small, not too fast, but a hard nut to crack. Think of her as the best a secondary or minor power can get built. In fact Spain in the late 20s was considering to build 4 small BBs (23000t) similarly armed with 8-9 12in guns. Well, since I´m not anymore an active player, you can consider this project as...
I think the only advantage of the Brooklyn layout over the Mogami is that as the barbettes are closer to each other, the lenght of main belt needed to protect them is shorter than the one in the Mogami layout, thus the whole lenght of the main belt can be smaller. In a sense is the same reasoning that led to all forward gun BBs, such as the Nelsons. (Edit... I guess I´m late posting this... well... that´s what happens when you try to do too many things at the same time...)
There she goes, basically the vessel as simmed before, but with 5 more tons in the misc weights and 50 more shells per gun: 8000t Canadian Light Cruiser laid down 1931 Displacement: 7.592 t light; 8.000 t standard; 9.032 t normal; 9.857 t full load Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught 567,50 ft / 560,00 ft x 56,00 ft x 18,00 ft (normal load) 172,97 m / 170,69 m x 17,07 m x 5,49 m Armament: 15 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns (5x3 guns), 83,72lbs / 37,97kg shells, 1931 Model Breech loading gu...
Thanks for the welcome Earl, and about my drawings no problem ShinRa, use them if you´ve to. Oh, and I´m not sure If you´re aiming to a single gun type for all your CLs, but you can change the 16 5.5 to 12 6 inchers without any change to the springsharp report, just noticed it while changing some parameters. Just in case you want a heavier shell.
You can get a cruiser with a fairly powerful punch (16 guns in 4 quads) in a 8000t vessel if you use the 5.5 gun, thought I´m not sure how realistic she´d be. This is what I got: 8000t Canadian Light Cruiser laid down 1931 Displacement: 7.628 t light; 8.000 t standard; 9.032 t normal; 9.857 t full load Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught 567,50 ft / 560,00 ft x 56,00 ft x 18,00 ft (normal load) 172,97 m / 170,69 m x 17,07 m x 5,49 m Armament: 16 - 5,51" / 140 mm guns (4x4 guns), ...
My apologies for dissapearing again, my life has been a real mess for the last few months and I´ve simply had no time nor will for anything... Until certain things change I don´t think I´ll be able to keep up with you all in the sim, and as I don´t want to be a burden for you all I think you can have the UK open for any new player. It saddens me because you all wellcomed me with open arms last time, but I simply can´t... I´ll try to drop in sometimes anyway. And as a last gift for the forum, thi...
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