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Friday, August 26th 2011, 6:07am

Two French Liners

One old, which I missed earlier...



[SIZE=3]Ville d'Alger and Ville d'Oran, French Mediterranean Liner laid down 1935[/SIZE]
Ville d'Alger and her sistership Ville d'Oran are the largest French liners in the Mediterranean. They connect Marseille and Algeria in twenty hours.

Displacement:
7,655 t light; 7,859 t standard; 10,197 t normal; 12,067 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
463.19 ft / 447.83 ft x 63.09 ft x 22.97 ft (normal load)
141.18 m / 136.50 m x 19.23 m x 7.00 m

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 18,954 shp / 14,140 Kw = 21.00 kts
Range 12,000nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 4,208 tons

Complement:
506 - 659

Cost:
£1.748 million / $6.991 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 538 tons, 5.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2,917 tons, 28.6 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2,542 tons, 24.9 %
Miscellaneous weights: 4,200 tons, 41.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
19,359 lbs / 8,781 Kg = 179.3 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 2.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.05
Metacentric height 2.7 ft / 0.8 m
Roll period: 16.0 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.550
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.10 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.16 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 48 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 25
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 15.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6.56 ft / 2.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 32.81 ft / 10.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 27.89 ft / 8.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 22.97 ft / 7.00 m
- Stern: 26.25 ft / 8.00 m
- Average freeboard: 25.33 ft / 7.72 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 62.8 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 178.9 %
Waterplane Area: 19,718 Square feet or 1,832 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 193 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 82 lbs/sq ft or 398 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.88
- Longitudinal: 3.47
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 1800 tons for 200 1st-Class Passengers
- 1600 tons for 400 2nd-Class Passengers
- 800 tons for amenities

Luxuries:
- Indoor pool
- Outdoor pool and lido deck
- First Class cafe and salon
- Second Class cafe and salon
- Cinema
- Air conditioning

Notes:
- Range is actually 5,000nm at 18.00 kts; 2473 tons of deep-stowed cargo or ballast simmed as bunker fuel.
- Briefly borrowed as troopship during the 1937 Morocco Crisis
- Second dummy funnel removed 1941
- Radio-teledection system added as navigational and anti-collision warning system


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Friday, August 26th 2011, 6:17am

...and one new, laid down this year.



[SIZE=3]Flandre and Antilles, French Passenger/Cruise Liner laid down 1941[/SIZE]
These two ships are designed more as cruise liners for the Mediterranean, Caribbean, and Tauran seas than as true ocean liners.

Displacement:
13,776 t light; 14,195 t standard; 20,990 t normal; 26,427 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
622.96 ft / 600.39 ft x 80.38 ft x 26.25 ft (normal load)
189.88 m / 183.00 m x 24.50 m x 8.00 m

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 26,266 shp / 19,594 Kw = 20.75 kts
Range 25,000nm at 18.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 12,231 tons

Complement:
871 - 1,133

Cost:
£3.581 million / $14.325 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Machinery: 694 tons, 3.3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,431 tons, 40.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 7,215 tons, 34.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 4,650 tons, 22.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
96,261 lbs / 43,663 Kg = 891.3 x 6 " / 152 mm shells or 8.0 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.09
Metacentric height 4.2 ft / 1.3 m
Roll period: 16.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 50 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.00
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck
Block coefficient: 0.580
Length to Beam Ratio: 7.47 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 24.50 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 40 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 25
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 10.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 72.18 ft / 22.00 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 59.06 ft / 18.00 m
- Mid (50 %): 42.65 ft / 13.00 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 32.81 ft / 10.00 m (42.65 ft / 13.00 m before break)
- Stern: 32.81 ft / 10.00 m
- Average freeboard: 47.97 ft / 14.62 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 36.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 351.8 %
Waterplane Area: 34,642 Square feet or 3,218 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 348 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 98 lbs/sq ft or 479 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.76
- Longitudinal: 11.91
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is excellent
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, rides out heavy weather easily

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 1900 tons for 200 1st-Class Passengers
- 1800 tons for 400 2nd-Class Passengers
- 800 tons for amenities

Luxuries:
- Indoor pool
- Outdoor pool and lido deck
- First Class cafe and salon
- Second Class cafe and salon
- Cinema
- Air conditioning

Notes:
- Range is actually 12,000nm at 18.00 kts; 6262 tons of deep-stowed cargo or ballast simmed as bunker fuel.
- Radio-teledection system added as navigational and anti-collision warning system

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Friday, August 26th 2011, 6:23am

Looks like the French

Will travel in style!

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Friday, August 26th 2011, 6:32am

Thanks! I just found Ville d'Alger tonight and fell in love with the ship - and Flandre too. They're not the big Atlantic greyhounds by any means, but I think that makes them look all the better - they look like they have more personality, somehow...