WesWorld

I'm planning to tack the following onto my reports. It is a simple method for establishing what is in service, what's in reserve and what limit (economic) could a fleet grow to based on it's funding.

Greece - OOB (Excluding ships under construction)
£3,998,490 -> Total Maintenance Cost

Combat Ships
B-2 Salamis Class Battleship -> (1 + 1 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £224280
AC-1 Pericles Class Aircraft Carrier -> (1 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £32812
AC-2 Anatoli Class Aircraft Carrier -> (1 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £113512
AC-3 Ouranos Class Seaplane Carrier -> (1 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £71250
C-4 Helle Class Heavy Cruiser -> (2 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £89850
C-6 Kypris Class Battle Cruiser -> (2 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £178275
C-8 Eurybiades Class Light Cruiser -> (7 + 2 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £360945
C-17 Leon Class Light Cruiser -> (4 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £190800
C-19 Athinai Class Escort Cruiser -> (5 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £260250
D-9 Antikythira Class Destroyer -> (0 + 8 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £28800
D-17 Kanaris Class Destroyer -> (4 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £53250
D-21 Doxa Class Destroyer -> (8 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £146100
D-29 Kondouriotis Class Destroyer -> (9 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £210600
D-38 Kolokotronis Class Destroyer -> (0 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £0
S-1 Delfin Class Submarine -> (0 + 2 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £3000
S-4 Hermês Class Submarine -> (0 + 4 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £28980
S-8 Nemesis Class Submarine -> (14 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £325500
T-13 Euryale Class Torpedo Boat -> (0 + 8 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £26040
T-21 Sphinx Class Torpedo Boat -> (4 + 4 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £56700
F-1 Akhilleus Class Frigate -> (12 + 8 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £316920
F-3 Psyche Class Training Frigate -> (4 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £83400
G-1 Heraklês Class Gunboat -> (8 + 8 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £251580
M-1 Lemnos Class Minelayer -> (1 + 4 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £50017
MS-5 Arethousa Class Minesweeper -> (4 + 4 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £47670
AS-1 Okeanos Class Submarine Transport -> (2 + 1 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £90000

Support Ships
B-1 Averoff Class Gunnery training ship -> (1 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £61462
B-4 Thermopylae Class Target ship -> (1 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £49012
AR-1 Class Repair Ship -> (1 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £71250
AO-1 Class Oilers -> (4 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £120000
Tenders -> (4 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £90000
Colliers -> (3 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £67500
Ammo Ships -> (2 + 0 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £45000

Light Craft
MTB -> (40 + 59 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £100170
MGB -> (10 + 17 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £52920
MMS -> (13 + 9 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £52912
X-Lighter -> (12 + 7 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £47730

Based on Life Cycle cost per quarter = (Outlay x 3)/80

(80 being 20 years X 4 quarters)

In service is 100% and laid up is a 60% saving (fuel, crew reduced maintenance etc.)

I've set the limit as equal to the construction value from factories (£4,000,000 for 15 factories)
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Thoughts?

Well cost maintance is something thats is not derectly tide to factory(industralial) output its more based on wealth of the nation like in Navalism were medium factories are producing sopport units.

Its more based on infrastructure using docks and slips to calculate this may not be a bad idea one Drydock may sopport 4 ships of the same size of something.

Its all money. It is directly related to:

How big a navy is.
How well maintained it is.
Its technical development.
Its readiness.

Factories, Infrastructure population etc. is all secondary. The only measure is money.

The only thing you can't buy is reputation - you have to earn that.

Cheers,

I know I'm abit off topic here but I couldn't help but notice one thing....

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Light Craft
MTB -> (40 + 59 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £100170
MGB -> (10 + 17 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £52920
MMS -> (13 + 9 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £52912
X-Lighter -> (12 + 7 in reserve) Quarterly Cost -> £47730

..are these PT-boat type vessels and if so where are their stats?

Interesting but difficult to handle if you have a large navy. Do you have an excel sheet for these calculations or something?

I also have missed how you calculate factory output like £4,000,000 for 15 factories - or I can´t remember. :o/

What I like is that - together with your other proposals - we could generate a system that works with money only - for building, maintaining and rebuilding ships.

Wes, I'll dig up what I have on smaller than 200ton vessels.

Hoo, all this is in excel. Yes, its more work for a bigger navy but it makes things more accountable. The £4m comes from equivalent value of what Greece has been building in the late 20's. To improve on things I think it would be better to describe things in 'points' where 1 point is £1m just to take out all the zeros.

Cheers,

That would be greatly appreciated!

Is it part of your general excel file or can it be handled as a stand alone?

I wonder what output (in money) the SAE factories provide? It seems rather difficult to calculate....

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Originally posted by HoOmAn
Is it part of your general excel file or can it be handled as a stand alone?

I wonder what output (in money) the SAE factories provide? It seems rather difficult to calculate....

Well Military industry dosent make money it takes money(unless you are seling to an outside source)
People give money by paying taxes(thats one thing I learnd from playing Civilization)

Other that that, How can one calculate 1t warship material to money.
If they bild one ton hull plating the price is greatly difrent form one ton High presure boilers or one ton range finders.
plus prizes are difrent in Japan GB or America and difrent in Yugoslavia persian or Siam.

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I wonder what output (in money) the SAE factories provide? It seems rather difficult to calculate....

Try it with using the same as Greece. 1 ton = £267.

I've just converted tons to money. Springsharp takes into account the difference in a ton of guns vs a ton of hull - we haven't been taking this into account.

Yes, prices are different GB vs Japan vs US etc. If the US had to pay for oil with euros or yuans then they would no longer be a superpower. All this is a bit more complex and we don't deal with this at the moment anyway.

Cheers,

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