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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 9:44pm

Chilean Ships for 1943

[SIZE=3]Overview[/SIZE]

New Construction
With the retirement of the dreadnought Almirante Cochrane, the name has been assigned to the second Blanco Encalada class battlecruiser, started in 1941 (originally named O'Higgins). Construction of this ship will accelerate substantially in 1943.

Blanco Encalada, the lead ship of the class, will complete in February 1943. This new battlecruiser will take on the crew of the retired Almirante Cochrane. It is possible that Almirante Latorre may be retired in the coming year, leaving the Capitan Prat as Chile's sole battleship.

(OOC note: I have been retaining the two Latorres solely due to Peru's possession of the ex-SAE Konigs. Now that those ships are sold to China, albeit not delivered, Chile is downsizing their capital ship fleet to a more realistic size. As the Capitan Prat is the most modern ship in the lineup, with radar, excellent speed, 15" guns, and modern AA, she will be retained as the Navy's flagship. The name Almirante Latorre will similarly be passed on to a new warship of the Armada.)

At least one and possibly two new cruisers will be laid down by ASMAR in 1943. The design, called N1, is classified at present.

The next stage of the destroyer fleet renovation will begin with the American-designed Bolados class escorts. These vessels will be dedicated antisubmarine ships, and will ideally replace the coastal escorts of the Frey, Aldea, or Villaroel classes. As purpose-built surface escorts, the Bolados class will have less armament and speed than purpose-built destroyers, mimicking developments elsewhere in the world.

Refits
Constitucion's 1936-designed radar suite will be refitted to match that of the light cruiser Magellanes. In order to help with topweight, the aft 130mm gun will be replaced with a quad 40mm AA gun.

The destroyers of the Capitan Thompson class will begin midlife refits, receiving new power plants and a comprehensive overhaul. Among the changes will be the removal of some of their depth-charge racks, addition of Colocolo launchers, and the update of radar. These changes will make the Thompson class equivalent to the refitted German-built Voluntarios, which they strongly resemble.

Ongoing Programs
The Armada de Chile's Directorate of Materiel has evaluated the desirability of refitting the three Atacama class cruisers (Atacama, Picunches, and Antofagasta) up to modern standards. With the pending construction of at least one and possibly two N1-type cruisers, the Directorate does not believe potential refit schemes will be cost-effective at this time. Offers for purchase may be entertained in 1943 and 1944. Similarly, the aging carrier Mapuche may be disposed of within the next five years. Design efforts will start to focus on new light cruisers to replace the Atacamas in the 1945 to 1948 period. Replacements are important as seven of Chile's eight light cruisers are over fifteen years old.

Construction of the Star class sea gunboats and YM1942 patrol vessels will continue apace.

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 9:47pm

Constitucion refit

[SIZE=3]Constitucion, Chilean Heavy Cruiser laid down 1936[/SIZE]

Displacement:
18,975 t light; 19,940 t standard; 22,778 t normal; 25,049 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
756.06 ft / 721.50 ft x 68.00 ft (Bulges 74.00 ft) x 27.10 ft (normal load)
230.45 m / 219.91 m x 20.73 m (Bulges 22.56 m) x 8.26 m

Armament:
9 - 10.00" / 254 mm guns (3x3 guns), 550.00lbs / 249.48kg shells, 1936 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
12 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (6x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1936 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, evenly spread
6 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns in single mounts, 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1936 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
24 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (6x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1936 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (1x4 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1936 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mount
on centreline aft, all raised guns - superfiring
Weight of broadside 5,890 lbs / 2,672 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 150
8 - 23.6" / 600 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7.50" / 191 mm 517.81 ft / 157.83 m 11.50 ft / 3.51 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 110 % of normal length

- Torpedo Bulkhead and Bulges:
1.00" / 25 mm 514.00 ft / 156.67 m 26.00 ft / 7.92 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 8.50" / 216 mm 5.00" / 127 mm 8.00" / 203 mm
2nd: 2.00" / 51 mm 1.00" / 25 mm 2.00" / 51 mm
3rd: 1.00" / 25 mm - -
4th: 1.00" / 25 mm - -

- Armour deck: 3.00" / 76 mm, Conning tower: 3.00" / 76 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Electric motors, 4 shafts, 131,589 shp / 98,166 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 5,109 tons

Complement:
926 - 1,205

Cost:
£9.239 million / $36.957 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 680 tons, 3.0 %
Armour: 5,599 tons, 24.6 %
- Belts: 1,827 tons, 8.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 494 tons, 2.2 %
- Armament: 1,245 tons, 5.5 %
- Armour Deck: 1,980 tons, 8.7 %
- Conning Tower: 52 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 3,692 tons, 16.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8,729 tons, 38.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 3,803 tons, 16.7 %
Miscellaneous weights: 275 tons, 1.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
32,341 lbs / 14,669 Kg = 64.7 x 10.0 " / 254 mm shells or 4.1 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 3.5 ft / 1.1 m
Roll period: 16.6 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 58 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.81
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.25

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.551
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.75 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 30.54 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 55 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 46
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 50.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.00 ft / 8.84 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 26.00 ft / 7.92 m
- Mid (50 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Stern: 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Average freeboard: 24.94 ft / 7.60 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 110.3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 154.0 %
Waterplane Area: 35,681 Square feet or 3,315 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 122 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 142 lbs/sq ft or 692 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.95
- Longitudinal: 1.53
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Breakdown of Weights:
75 tons for 3x ENAER Coati SN1E seaplanes
35 tons for catapult
15 tons for air-conditioning and heating
15 tons for crew comforts, movie theatre, and ice cream machines
10 tons for fresh water makers
50 tons for squadron flagship facilities
75 tons for Type A-43 Electronics Suite
Total extra weight - 275 tons

Range Notes:
Range 2,130nm at 33.00 kts
Range 2,789nm at 30.00 kts
Range 3,713nm at 27.00 kts
Range 5,038nm at 24.00 kts
Range 7,001nm at 21.00 kts
Range 10,032nm at 18.00 kts
Range 15,000nm at 15.00 kts
Range 23,910nm at 12.00 kts

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 9:49pm

[SIZE=3]Capitan Thompson, Chilean Destroyer laid down 1932 (Refitted 1943)[/SIZE]

Displacement:
1,369 t light; 1,479 t standard; 1,701 t normal; 1,879 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
363.00 ft / 350.00 ft x 35.00 ft x 12.00 ft (normal load)
110.64 m / 106.68 m x 10.67 m x 3.66 m

Armament:
4 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns in single mounts, 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1941 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts
on centreline ends, evenly spread, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1942 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
8 - 1.10" / 27.9 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.67lbs / 0.30kg shells, 1942 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 289 lbs / 131 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 450
4 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 0.50" / 13 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
2nd: 0.25" / 6 mm - -
3rd: 0.25" / 6 mm - -

- Conning tower: 0.50" / 13 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 32,315 shp / 24,107 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 6,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 400 tons

Complement:
132 - 172

Cost:
£0.829 million / $3.317 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 36 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 11 tons, 0.6 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 9 tons, 0.5 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 2 tons, 0.1 %
Machinery: 744 tons, 43.7 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 523 tons, 30.7 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 332 tons, 19.5 %
Miscellaneous weights: 55 tons, 3.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
641 lbs / 291 Kg = 9.6 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.3 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.33
Metacentric height 1.7 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 11.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 71 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.27
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.20

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.405
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.00 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.62 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 24.62 degrees
Stern overhang: 2.00 ft / 0.61 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 24.00 ft / 7.32 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m (11.00 ft / 3.35 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
- Stern: 11.00 ft / 3.35 m
- Average freeboard: 15.82 ft / 4.82 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 164.4 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 133.0 %
Waterplane Area: 7,849 Square feet or 729 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 84 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 34 lbs/sq ft or 164 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 2.36
- Overall: 0.59
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 15 tons for Colocolo launchers
- 5 tons for hydrophones
- 5 tons for depth charges (24x420-lb bombs)
- 30 tons for dradis and electronics suite

Notes:
342 tons each to rebuild

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 9:56pm



[SIZE=3]Bolados class, Chilean Escort Destroyer laid down 1943[/SIZE]
American-designed surface escort (OTL Rudderow class destroyer escort.)

Displacement:
1,195 t light; 1,261 t standard; 1,445 t normal; 1,592 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
325.39 ft / 314.96 ft x 36.42 ft x 10.50 ft (normal load)
99.18 m / 96.00 m x 11.10 m x 3.20 m

Armament:
2 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns in single mounts, 67.03lbs / 30.40kg shells, 1943 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (2x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.88kg shells, 1943 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 0.24lbs / 0.11kg shells, 1943 Model
Breech loading guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 144 lbs / 65 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 450
3 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.18" / 30 mm 0.59" / 15 mm 0.59" / 15 mm
2nd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.39" / 10 mm -
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Conning tower: 1.18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 11,837 shp / 8,830 Kw = 26.00 kts
Range 5,500nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 330 tons

Complement:
116 - 152

Cost:
£0.653 million / $2.611 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 18 tons, 1.2 %
Armour: 12 tons, 0.9 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 9 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 3 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 306 tons, 21.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 699 tons, 48.3 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 250 tons, 17.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 160 tons, 11.1 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
2,466 lbs / 1,119 Kg = 36.8 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.11
Metacentric height 1.4 ft / 0.4 m
Roll period: 13.2 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.22
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.48

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.420
Length to Beam Ratio: 8.65 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 20.72 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 47
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 1.00 ft / 0.30 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 25.92 ft / 7.90 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 19.03 ft / 5.80 m
- Mid (50 %): 11.98 ft / 3.65 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 11.98 ft / 3.65 m
- Stern: 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
- Average freeboard: 15.08 ft / 4.60 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 92.7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 135.9 %
Waterplane Area: 7,424 Square feet or 690 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 156 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 53 lbs/sq ft or 258 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.88
- Longitudinal: 3.43
- Overall: 1.01
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 30 tons for Suite-42a electronics
- 15 tons for hydrophones and ASDIC
- 6 tons for three reload torpedoes (3,638 lb each)
- 15 tons for Colocolo antisubmarine rocket-launched depth charges
- 12 tons for Colocolo reloads
- 10 tons for air-conditioning and heating
- 10 tons for miscellaneous radio, electronics and ECM gear
- 30 tons for crew comforts and future additions
- 32 tons for depth charges (150x420-lb bombs)
160 tons total miscellaneous weight

Electronics:
- Type 102 Cactus surface/air search dradis: 5 tons
- Type 200 Moonraker air search dradis: 5 tons
- Type 301 Boldo fire-control dradis: 5 tons
- Mk41 Nevada Gunnery Computer: 10 tons
- Roth-389 Emergency Electrical Generator Set: 5 tons
Total: 30 tons

Ships in Class:
- Bolados: Laid down at Talcahuano January 1942, completed November 1942.
- Téllez: Laid down at Talcahuano April 1942, completed February 1943.
- Bravo: Laid down at Talcahuano July 1942, completed May 1943.
- Machado: Laid down at Talcahuano October 1942, completed August 1943.
- Díaz: Laid down at Talcahuano January 1943, completed November 1943.
- Troncoso: Laid down at Talcahuano April 1943, completed February 1944.
- Litton: Laid down at Talcahuano July 1943, completed May 1944.
- Salinas: Laid down at Talcahuano October 1943, completed August 1944.

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 10:16pm

[SIZE=3]Los Ríos class, Chilean Light Cruiser laid down 1945[/SIZE]
Proposed possible replacement for Atacama-class light cruisers.

Displacement:
7,824 t light; 8,127 t standard; 9,352 t normal; 10,332 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
585.01 ft / 574.15 ft x 54.13 ft x 19.69 ft (normal load)
178.31 m / 175.00 m x 16.50 m x 6.00 m

Armament:
9 - 5.91" / 150 mm guns (3x3 guns), 102.98lbs / 46.71kg shells, 1945 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, majority aft, 1 raised mount aft - superfiring
12 - 3.00" / 76.2 mm guns (6x2 guns), 13.50lbs / 6.12kg shells, 1945 Model
Automatic rapid fire guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side, all amidships, 2 raised mounts - superfiring
16 - 1.10" / 27.9 mm guns (4x4 guns), 0.67lbs / 0.30kg shells, 1945 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 1,099 lbs / 499 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 180

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 3.94" / 100 mm 344.49 ft / 105.00 m 13.12 ft / 4.00 m
Ends: Unarmoured
Main Belt covers 92 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5.12" / 130 mm 3.94" / 100 mm 3.94" / 100 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm 0.20" / 5 mm
3rd: 0.59" / 15 mm 0.20" / 5 mm -

- Armour deck: 1.97" / 50 mm, Conning tower: 1.18" / 30 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines plus diesel motors,
Electric motors, 4 shafts, 81,635 shp / 60,900 Kw = 33.00 kts
Range 12,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2,205 tons

Complement:
475 - 618

Cost:
£4.707 million / $18.828 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 141 tons, 1.5 %
Armour: 1,871 tons, 20.0 %
- Belts: 747 tons, 8.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 302 tons, 3.2 %
- Armour Deck: 811 tons, 8.7 %
- Conning Tower: 11 tons, 0.1 %
Machinery: 2,061 tons, 22.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3,500 tons, 37.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,528 tons, 16.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 2.7 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
13,057 lbs / 5,923 Kg = 126.8 x 5.9 " / 150 mm shells or 1.7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.10
Metacentric height 2.4 ft / 0.7 m
Roll period: 14.7 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 63 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.44
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.14

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak, low quarterdeck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.535
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.61 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 27.12 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 59 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 55
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 29.86 ft / 9.10 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 26.57 ft / 8.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 23.29 ft / 7.10 m (14.76 ft / 4.50 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 14.44 ft / 4.40 m (14.76 ft / 4.50 m before break)
- Stern: 14.76 ft / 4.50 m
- Average freeboard: 20.42 ft / 6.22 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 86.9 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 173.7 %
Waterplane Area: 22,260 Square feet or 2,068 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 127 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 93 lbs/sq ft or 452 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.94
- Longitudinal: 1.61
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 10:29pm

A very sound and well-reasoned program. It seems well matched to Chile's current needs and capabilities.

The only comment/question is the proposed cruiser design, Los Rios. Admittedly, my thoughts are conditioned somewhat by hindsight, but isn't the design rather small compared with some of Chile's other recent cruisers? The design does not seem to have much stretch.

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 10:40pm

Quoted

Originally posted by BruceDuncan
The only comment/question is the proposed cruiser design, Los Rios. Admittedly, my thoughts are conditioned somewhat by hindsight, but isn't the design rather small compared with some of Chile's other recent cruisers? The design does not seem to have much stretch.

It is fairly small, yes - particularly by comparison to the nearly 15,000 ton light cruiser Magellanes and the 23,000 ton Constitucion.

In fact, the Los Ríos is very close to the Swedish Tre Kronor class, of which Chile purchased one vessel, and was designed in approximately this period. This represents the bare-bones idea of what I'd want to replace the Atacamas; the Magellanes represents the high end. (I should note that I've not ruled out building the much-delayed second Magellanes class.)

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Thursday, September 27th 2012, 4:41am

These eight ships were originally intended to be "light destroyers". Over the past few years, the Armada's determined that the Freys are just too slow and too lightly-armed for frontline duties, but most of all, they're some of the worst seaboats in the Navy. This has resulted in their posting in Arica, where the problem is less acute. Strategically, their role is the escort of coastal convoys for protection against submarines and surface raiders. They are not as well-equipped for this role as the Armada would prefer.

In view of this, there's been a proposal to rebuild the class as dedicated fast antisubmarine frigates, equipping them with radar and updated sonar. This results in the ships losing their aft 110mm mount (the Armada feels 2x110mm is more than sufficient to fight any submarine), and seeing their obsolete 4x37mm mounts and the 6x20mm all replaced by two quad 1.1" automatics.

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[SIZE=3]Capitan Frey class, Chilean Frigate laid down 1937[/SIZE]

Displacement:
733 t light; 763 t standard; 865 t normal; 947 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
253.82 ft / 246.06 ft x 26.90 ft x 11.15 ft (normal load)
77.37 m / 75.00 m x 8.20 m x 3.40 m

Armament:
2 - 4.33" / 110 mm guns (1x2 guns), 40.61lbs / 18.42kg shells, 1943 Model
Dual purpose guns in a deck mount with hoist
on centreline forward
8 - 1.10" / 27.9 mm guns (2x4 guns), 0.67lbs / 0.30kg shells, 1943 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1937 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 87 lbs / 39 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 250

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.38" / 35 mm 0.98" / 25 mm 1.18" / 30 mm
2nd: 0.59" / 15 mm - -

- Conning tower: 1.57" / 40 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 18,771 shp / 14,003 Kw = 30.64 kts
Range 6,500nm at 12.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 184 tons

Complement:
79 - 103

Cost:
£0.494 million / $1.977 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 11 tons, 1.3 %
Armour: 10 tons, 1.2 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 7 tons, 0.8 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 3 tons, 0.4 %
Machinery: 399 tons, 46.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 258 tons, 29.8 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 132 tons, 15.3 %
Miscellaneous weights: 55 tons, 6.4 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
257 lbs / 117 Kg = 6.3 x 4.3 " / 110 mm shells or 0.2 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.12
Metacentric height 0.9 ft / 0.3 m
Roll period: 12.1 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 53 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.28
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.83

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.410
Length to Beam Ratio: 9.15 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 18.25 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 72 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 64
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 20.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Forecastle (25 %): 16.73 ft / 5.10 m
- Mid (41 %): 16.73 ft / 5.10 m (8.86 ft / 2.70 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 8.86 ft / 2.70 m
- Stern: 8.86 ft / 2.70 m
- Average freeboard: 12.55 ft / 3.82 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 166.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 112.4 %
Waterplane Area: 4,255 Square feet or 395 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 73 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 29 lbs/sq ft or 139 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.51
- Longitudinal: 3.24
- Overall: 0.61
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Poor seaboat, wet and uncomfortable, reduced performance in heavy weather

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Thursday, September 27th 2012, 5:24am

Given the parameters of the original design, the refit proposed does what it can to make the best of the situation. The hulls are comparatively new, and if run at less than flank speed the issue of their being poor seaboats can be minimized. The decision to refit them is probably a good one; in a perfect world, they should be replaced - but Wesworld is not perfect. :(

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Thursday, September 27th 2012, 6:21am

And here's a refit of the Almirante Lynch class destroyers. These ships are the leaders attached to the 1st Destroyer Squadron (one Lynch-class DD and three Thompson-class DDs form a destroyer division), and since the Thompsons are undergoing an update, the Lynch class really ought to be modernized at the same time. The refit is very similar to the Thompson refits (see above), but the C turret is removed to help with topweight and space. New engines result in the ship being capable of an extra knot of speed.

Quoted

Almirante Lynch, Chilean Destroyer laid down 1932 (Engine 1943)

Displacement:
2,000 t light; 2,126 t standard; 2,449 t normal; 2,708 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
392.00 ft / 384.00 ft x 37.00 ft x 14.00 ft (normal load)
119.48 m / 117.04 m x 11.28 m x 4.27 m

Armament:
6 - 5.12" / 130 mm guns (3x2 guns), 67.03lbs / 30.41kg shells, 1943 Model
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts with hoists
on centreline ends, majority forward, 1 raised mount - superfiring
8 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm guns (4x2 guns), 1.95lbs / 0.89kg shells, 1943 Model
Anti-aircraft guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
6 - 0.50" / 12.7 mm guns in single mounts, 0.06lbs / 0.03kg shells, 1932 Model
Machine guns in deck mounts
on side, all amidships, all raised mounts - superfiring
Weight of broadside 418 lbs / 190 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 325
10 - 21.0" / 533.4 mm above water torpedoes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1.00" / 25 mm 0.50" / 13 mm -
2nd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -
3rd: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Conning tower: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 44,765 shp / 33,395 Kw = 34.00 kts
Range 7,000nm at 15.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 582 tons

Complement:
173 - 226

Cost:
£1.204 million / $4.817 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 52 tons, 2.1 %
Armour: 19 tons, 0.8 %
- Belts: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 15 tons, 0.6 %
- Armour Deck: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Conning Tower: 4 tons, 0.2 %
Machinery: 1,079 tons, 44.1 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 794 tons, 32.4 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 450 tons, 18.4 %
Miscellaneous weights: 55 tons, 2.2 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
876 lbs / 397 Kg = 13.1 x 5.1 " / 130 mm shells or 0.4 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.20
Metacentric height 1.6 ft / 0.5 m
Roll period: 12.4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.72
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.19

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has rise forward of midbreak, low quarterdeck
and transom stern
Block coefficient: 0.431
Length to Beam Ratio: 10.38 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 22.49 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 66 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 59
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 19.99 degrees
Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 22.00 ft / 6.71 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m
- Mid (50 %): 20.00 ft / 6.10 m (16.00 ft / 4.88 m aft of break)
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 12.00 ft / 3.66 m (16.00 ft / 4.88 m before break)
- Stern: 12.00 ft / 3.66 m
- Average freeboard: 17.56 ft / 5.35 m

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 163.0 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 93.8 %
Waterplane Area: 9,271 Square feet or 861 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 87 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 41 lbs/sq ft or 199 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.50
- Longitudinal: 2.58
- Overall: 0.59
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is cramped
Room for accommodation and workspaces is adequate
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

Breakdown of Miscellaneous Weights:
- 15 tons for Colocolo launchers
- 5 tons for hydrophones
- 5 tons for depth charges (24x420-lb bombs)
- 30 tons for dradis and electronics suite

Notes:
500 tons each to rebuild